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HI Celia
Sorry I do not have a number it just has BRIDGE WATER STREET, LIVERPOOL,
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Pughy
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Hi Shaun
Note first reference to Wirral was in 1834 for B/Head other areas of Wirral were added to in subsequent years. Nothing found before 1857
1857. Jones Samuel Blacksmith 10 water street Birkenhead
1859. Jones Samuel Blacksmith 25 Pitt Street Tranmere
“ “ “ 24 white street B/Head
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1864. Jones Samuel Blacksmith 19 Robert Street T/Park
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1868. Jones Samuel Blacksmith 14 Bell street N
“ “ “ 24 white street B/Head
1870. Jones Samuel Blacksmith 14 Bell street N
“ “ “ 4 Enerdale street N
“ “ “ 24 white street B/H
1872 Jones Samuel Blacksmith 14 Bell street N
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Shaun
going by the occupation that he has,Whitesmith, coach spring builder & Blacksmith and worked within the railway.Are typical of the sort of jobs a Blacksmith would do.There were hundreds of jobs in the railways for a smithy he even made the seats  & the Big Gates.Next time you go to an old station have a look around. When he was employed to do a particular job,like making springs for coach.That was his occupation at the time.His trade was blacksmith maybe he was out of work in 1845 and he wasn't smithing anything  I wonder if he hung any bells when he was a whitesmith  I was going to suggest that you ask for a census to find out which of the three Samuels in 1870 are yours,hopfully you will find out.There were a lot more Samuel Jones when i got to the 1860's
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Hi Gabba
i will start in 1849 and work back then,and get back to you probebly friday.
Celia
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Gabba
your Samuel Gabriel hasn't turned up in the directories so far or any other Gabriel's that are boiler makers,but i have more to look into.The Ones found in case they are related are.
1849 & 45. Joseph Gabriel. Lodging house,23 wolf street T/Park
1843.James Gabriel.Shoemaker 53 Limkiln Lane
Lyon Gabriel. Surgeon/Dentist 21 Brownlow Hill
1853 Arnold Gabriel Dentist. 9,Mount Pleasant
1855. Edward Gabriel. Shoemaker 37 Frank Street T/Park
Joseph Gabriel. Caincutter. 18 Dexter Street
William Gabriel Lodging House. 161c Mill Street
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Hi Celia I wonder if you could look up a John Guy he was a wheelwright and lived in no 3? blackstock st off vauxhall rd in the early 1840s/50s I would be very grateful for anything you can find ,This is a great site and you have all been very good to me looking up things for me Thank you Joan  
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Joan
the record office is only open at the weekends, so it will be this/next weekend before i can go.All the libraries have the directories,but only a bit of each.So i have to go to various places for various years I did however go through some today that were available.There was no mention of John Guy in the1845/47/49/50. There was no Blackstock Road in the 1849,it was in a later one.I did take all the Guy surnames though,do you want them.Can you slim the years down a bit
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Hi Celia Thank you for your quick reply ,The only thing I have on John Guy is he married Ann Hayes in Childwall in 1827 .there was a son Thomas b1828 but dont know where they were living then .I do have the next child Samuel b 1830 and they were living in Vauxhall rd .John was a wheelwright .I dont know when he died but Ann his wife d in Opie st Everton in 1913 aged 80 .
Thank you Celia for trying it is very good of you to give up your time for everyone and I am very grateful to you and all in doing this for us
regards Joanna
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Thats a lot earlier than would have looked Joanna
Is the Thomas Guy c 25 May 1828 St Peter L'Pool Father John Guy Mother Anne. yours, If so there are a couple (i think? More children. There are loads of christening for Guy on the I.G.I. I cant find Samuel though.The only one i can find doesn't have the same mother
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Thank you Celia .Thomas is one of ours there were other children Ellen was one b 1859 she was my husbands g mother married to Alfred Wood in 1882 .I am very grateful for what you have found .Do you think you could look up
John fletcher b about 1805/8 he was a blacksmith the only thing is I can only guess he lived in the center of Liverpool where all the family came from .I tried to find him on the 1841 census but had no luck .his wifes name was Ellen Hill (widow) I think .But whatever you find if anything I am very grateful .and thank you again Celia . Joan
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Joan
I found these, to lazy today to type them all out,have to go to the library
Celia
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Joan
I had a look through about 8 directories from 1845 to 1864.The only Fletcher Blacksmith (and the only blacksmith) in one and a half pages turned up in 1855
Richard Fletcher Blacksmith 10 Grump Street.
John Fletcher Blacksmith appears in both 1859 & 1860
address 10 Grump Street .Then they dissapear after 1860,Richard wasn't in the two later directories so maybe died or retired.
Celia
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