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Ken S
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Taylor's
« on: Tuesday 04 March 08 14:08 GMT (UK) »
My area of research is Stephenson's of Yorkshire (mainly Doncaster and Hull area). A family story states that on the voyage over (they settled in Ontario, Canada) a baby died and likely buried at sea. I have through the help of this site .. got the boat record... or rather port record. Hull to New York .. ariving NY Nov 12 1854 (boat called Ross.. 27 passengers and a load of coal).. and yes indeed a baby did indeed died coming over. Quoting the record..... William Taylor age 31 Labourer.. wife Myron  26 and children.. Henry age 3.. and Hannah age 2. I do not know where these Taylors originated from in UK (leaving from Hull.. one might think maybe E Yorks) and do not know where they settled in N America.... as I say my bunch came to Canada, What are the chances of finding this Taylor family.. both in UK, and this side of the pond. To what I can see Myron is usual a male first name.. so maybe this is a misprint. And yes the port record states that one baby died onboard.. Infant of William Taylor.
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 14:21 GMT (UK) »
I found who I believe is them in Tecumsah, Lenawee, Michigan, in the 1860 census.

William, 37, Farm laborer, b. England
Miriam, 34, b. eng
Henry, 9, b. eng
Hannah, 7, b. eng
George, 1, b. Canada
James, 1 month, b. Michigan.

Let me see what else I can find.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Okey Dokey, these folks are jumping right off the page. In 1870, they are in Macon, Lewanee, Michigan. The whole family is there, except James. I would make the assumption he died. But, there is now Jennie M, age 3, b. Michigan. George has a middle initial of W. I will see what else I can find.

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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 14:37 GMT (UK) »
In 1880, it looks like Miriam is a widow and her son George is still with her and a farmer. They are in Macon. I can't find Jennie. Very sad. What a life people lived back then. I also can't find Henry, but he could be anywhere at this point.

There are a couple Hannah's in Lenawee county. Funny, two of them are on the exact same page of the census and both have husbands named James who are blacksmiths and daughters named Nellie who are 4. Weird. One is Hannah Edman and the other is Hannah Van Wey. The Van Weys also have a boarder living with them, Ed Goades, 21, and James's father, William, 58. These are both in Palmyra, MI. there is one in Tecumsah, Hannah Mead, married to Louis K. It does say that she was born in Michigan, though, so I would probably rule that out. You can take a look at these as it is the 1880 census, which is free to look at. Let me move on to 1900 and see what I can find.

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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 14:47 GMT (UK) »
I would rule out Hannah Van Wey as she is living with her brother-in-law and his family in the 1900 census.

I have found one possibility for George, but I can't be sure. He is married to Susannah, a farmer, living in Rich, Lapeer, Michigan, with children Daniel, George, Clara, Myrtle and J.D. (a son). It says he was born May 1860, and he came over in 1860.

I think that's as far as I can take it at this point. Let me know if there is anything else I can look up for you.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ken and Kath,   found the following @

http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/gendisx/search.htm

Kath not seeing a dau Miriam 1870  unless she is Jennie M  Huh Huh
Note the date of record appears to be more than one year after after her death.

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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 15:51 GMT (UK) »
I would guess Jennie M was Miriam J. Probably called her by middle name to avoid confusion. I see another death for a Taylor in Macon with a father named William, FREDICLAOOVER. Odd name. It's a boy and he was 17days old. I wonder why William isn't on there. He would have died during the period covered by this.

Kath

PS, great site Lissa.
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Was going back through that site again......  maybe William died in another county/place entirely  or the database is incomplete or he is mistranscribed.........arghhhh,   the usual list of encumbrances!    Sad

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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:07 GMT (UK) »
I posted in a flurry this morning and we haven't even heard back from Ken yet. I think his initial query was trying to find out if these are even his family or not. Is that right Ken?

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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:11 GMT (UK) »
I was confused about the transition from his primary interest in Stephenson to Taylor ---   but just followed your lead in posting away on the Taylors   LOL!!!   The blind leading the blind!   Hope this is something he wanted to know!
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all .. very interesting. Also interesting that 3rd child George was born in Canada. I know you have to be careful with family stories.. but another goes that the ship was to dock in Canada.. but a storm blew it off coarse, and they made land at New York instead... could be true.. I guess?? The ones on this ship that I am related to (for sure?) were Stephenson (spelled Stevenson on the port record) Scott and a rather rare name - Withernwick. Whether the Taylors were any conection to my rellies I'm not sure .. There was some thought that they might be. My Stephenson's in 1851 UK census are found at Stoneferry, Sutton Parish E Yorks (just noth of Hull) and in 1861 Canadian census they are found in Barton Township, Wentworth County S Ontario, near Hamilton.
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Ken,

Are you just seeing about the others on the ship then? I can understand that. Sometimes it is so easy to get wrapped up into another family's story, esp seeing a baby died on the ship. To find any connections, I guess you should post on the England board to find info about the family before they came to N. America. And check the BMDs for marriages and births.

Good luck and let me know if I can do anything else.

Also, if you see me on here in the next few hours, feel free to scold. I need to finish my proofreading project.  Shocked

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 16:39 GMT (UK) »
 Yes it is a possible Taylor - Stephenson connection I was looking for.. a shot in the dark as it were. I have some notes a relative wrote out for me 20 years ago .. where he is talking of when my rellies came to this country .. and he seems to state that a baby .. possibly in the family died coming over . Now as I say through this site and Ancestry,, I have got that ship record.. and indeed a baby in this Taylor family died... so hence my search.
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William Stephenson - born 1814 at Doncaster West Yorkshire - married Mary Scott at Cottingham East Yorkshire (Hull) in 1838. Williams parents I believe were another Wm Stephenson and an Alice Carter - married Cantley Parish W Yorks (Doncaster) in 1811..... Other east riding names are Nicholls (Bridlington, Yorks and Wigan Lancs.) and the surname Withernwick.
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Re: Taylor's
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »
Well, good luck. Let us know if we can do anything else for you.

Kath
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Sligo: Davey (also Mayo), McCluskey, McNulty
Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
Stahl, Russia to England to USA
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