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Look up birth Granville J.kemp completed
« on: Tuesday 04 March 08 21:35 GMT (UK) »

I have Granville J.Kemp age 7 in 1891,6 Briggs Terrace,Northowram.In 1901 age 18 grocers assistant!! living 28 Commercial Street Queensbury. However I cannot find his birth and is the J for John after his father?Any help much appreciated thankyou
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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 21:42 GMT (UK) »

I should think he's likely to be Granville Jowett Kemp, who married Sep 1907 Bradford 9b 3.

Haven't found a birth yet...

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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 21:54 GMT (UK) »

It must be his mothers maiden is Jowett.Thank you, any luck on birth? He would be a shop assistant called Granville!!!!!!!
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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 22:11 GMT (UK) »

No luck on the birth.

If you look at the 1881 census on www.familysearch.org you find the family (obviously Granville not yet born) who are mostly Kemp, but include a "Prescilla Jowett", 18, illegitimate child of wife, as well as a Sophia Wells, 19, illegitimate child of husband.  The latter appears with the family in 1891 as Sophia Wells Kemp, aged 30.

Reference in 1881 is RG11/4424 folio 62 p7.

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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 22:13 GMT (UK) »

Marriage:

Sep 1870 Bradford

John KEMP
Elizabeth JOWETT

on same page, 9b 151

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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 22:24 GMT (UK) »

Elizabeth Jowett seems to have been a 15-yr-old living with her widowed mother and siblings in 1861: RG9/3338 folio 80 p4.

I wonder whether Granville was in fact a child of one of the daughters of John and Elizabeth and either not registered at all or registered under some other name.

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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 22:29 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for all the help. John's first wife was Hannah Wells who had illigit daughter Sophia Wells.they had Fred,Walter,Lavinia and Emma.
John married Elizabeth Jowett, who had illigit daughter Priscilla.Their children were Sarah Ann,John William,Hannah and Granville. I hadn't thought Granville wasn't their child, but I understand what you mean.
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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 22:35 GMT (UK) »

Hmmm... I see Priscilla (now married as Hanson) has a 5 month old son Granville in 1891.  Obviously the name was a family favourite!

Perhaps the next step is to obtain the older Granville's 1907 marriage certificate so see what it says about his father (though it may not be reliable). Very mystifying that his birth registration can't be found at all. Huh

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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 March 08 23:26 GMT (UK) »

I had not followed Priscilla up,I see she has a son called Granville, so now I have 2 Granvilles!!! You have been really excellent.I could keep you busy for hours!!!!!!!I have a murder to solve soon.I hope you will be able to help me with that.Shall I put complete on this post, or is it done automatically?
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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 05:24 GMT (UK) »

HI Binka


I checked the complete birth indexes and found your Granville's birth entry :-


In the Jan to March 1/4 of 1883

Granville Jowett Kemp

Halifax reg district

Vol 9a

Page 517



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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 07:53 GMT (UK) »

HI Binka


I checked the complete birth indexes and found your Granville's birth entry :-


In the Jan to March 1/4 of 1883

Granville Jowett Kemp

Halifax reg district

Vol 9a

Page 517



Wendy

Brilliant, Wendy Cheesy

So he was lurking in there after all.



Binka, just add "Completed" to the title of the thread.

And do post your murder mystery - we'll all love to get involved with that Wink

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Re: Look up birth Granville J.kemp
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 14:37 GMT (UK) »

Thankyou for all your great help.Wonderful.
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