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Topic: Look up birth Granville J.kemp completed (Read 175 times)
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avm228
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I should think he's likely to be Granville Jowett Kemp, who married Sep 1907 Bradford 9b 3.
Haven't found a birth yet...
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No luck on the birth.
If you look at the 1881 census on www.familysearch.org you find the family (obviously Granville not yet born) who are mostly Kemp, but include a "Prescilla Jowett", 18, illegitimate child of wife, as well as a Sophia Wells, 19, illegitimate child of husband. The latter appears with the family in 1891 as Sophia Wells Kemp, aged 30.
Reference in 1881 is RG11/4424 folio 62 p7.
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Marriage:
Sep 1870 Bradford
John KEMP Elizabeth JOWETT
on same page, 9b 151
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Elizabeth Jowett seems to have been a 15-yr-old living with her widowed mother and siblings in 1861: RG9/3338 folio 80 p4.
I wonder whether Granville was in fact a child of one of the daughters of John and Elizabeth and either not registered at all or registered under some other name.
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Thanks for all the help. John's first wife was Hannah Wells who had illigit daughter Sophia Wells.they had Fred,Walter,Lavinia and Emma. John married Elizabeth Jowett, who had illigit daughter Priscilla.Their children were Sarah Ann,John William,Hannah and Granville. I hadn't thought Granville wasn't their child, but I understand what you mean.
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Hmmm... I see Priscilla (now married as Hanson) has a 5 month old son Granville in 1891. Obviously the name was a family favourite!
Perhaps the next step is to obtain the older Granville's 1907 marriage certificate so see what it says about his father (though it may not be reliable). Very mystifying that his birth registration can't be found at all. 
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I had not followed Priscilla up,I see she has a son called Granville, so now I have 2 Granvilles!!! You have been really excellent.I could keep you busy for hours!!!!!!!I have a murder to solve soon.I hope you will be able to help me with that.Shall I put complete on this post, or is it done automatically?
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HI Binka
I checked the complete birth indexes and found your Granville's birth entry :-
In the Jan to March 1/4 of 1883
Granville Jowett Kemp
Halifax reg district
Vol 9a
Page 517
Wendy
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HI Binka
I checked the complete birth indexes and found your Granville's birth entry :-
In the Jan to March 1/4 of 1883
Granville Jowett Kemp
Halifax reg district
Vol 9a
Page 517
Wendy
Brilliant, Wendy 
So he was lurking in there after all.
Binka, just add "Completed" to the title of the thread.
And do post your murder mystery - we'll all love to get involved with that 
Anna
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