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« on: Wednesday 05 March 08 01:59 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone tell me where this is located? Thank you. Danny
1544 john barkesdale speenhamland speen brk archd berks will 7434
[register copy] will of john barksdall of speen. inholder of spynham land dated 26 april [?] year of Hen8 soul to almighty god and all the holy company of heaven to be buried in speen church in the nicoyell to the mother church of sarum 4d to the high alter in speen church 8d to the repair of the same 20s and for my buriel 6s-8d to john barksdall my eldest son my 2 houses at shawbridge with 3 1/2 acres of arable land lying in shaw dene with all their appurtances such as partures 
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Re: Spenham
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 02:24 GMT (UK) »

I googled for Speenhamland, Berkshire. At present the mapping function does not seem to be working but the satellite one shows it quite clearly.

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Lancashire and Cheshire: Harding, Turner, Gandy, Rigby, Bancroft, Moorcroft, Wright
Wiltshire: Webb, Hayter, Mussell, Curtice, Sheppard
Hampshire: Harper, Rawlings
Ireland: Revels, Qua, Alexander, Clegg
Bucks, Northants, Derby, Leicester and Cheshire: Spokes, Glover, Sturgess, Attewell, Whiting, Lester, Hall
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 March 08 03:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you. I found it. Danny
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Re: Spenham
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 March 08 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Speenhamland was one of several tithings in the parish of Speen. Easily the most populous part of the parish as it was, essentially, the northern part of Newbury. It was incorporated into the Borough of Newbury in the 1870s (1878 I think). In the C18th and early C19th it was full of inns making big money from the coaching trade to and from London and Bath/Bristol.

Shaw Bridge crosses the River Lambourn llinking Shaw to Woodspeen East (another tithing of Speen). The houses mentioned could be either side of the bridge, but the Woodspeen side is a bit more likely. The will is so early that it is difficult to tell.  There are a few surveys at TNA that might help tie it down a bit.

This is an interesting will - quite an early reference to any inn in Newbury, any chance of geting the date it was written?
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 March 08 01:51 GMT (UK) »

Henry V111 reigned from 21 April, 1509 to 28 January, 1547.

The initial posting on this thread has 1544 and information which says 26 April [?] Hen8.

Could the initial 1544 be the year the will was written or proved?

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Lancashire and Cheshire: Harding, Turner, Gandy, Rigby, Bancroft, Moorcroft, Wright
Wiltshire: Webb, Hayter, Mussell, Curtice, Sheppard
Hampshire: Harper, Rawlings
Ireland: Revels, Qua, Alexander, Clegg
Bucks, Northants, Derby, Leicester and Cheshire: Spokes, Glover, Sturgess, Attewell, Whiting, Lester, Hall
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 March 08 02:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi Newburychap, Here is complete will. I think its 1544. It can be found at genuki. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Do you know if this Church is still there?  I'm looking for a British Barksdale interested in family history, but it seems the name has about died out in England. I descend from William Barksdale immigrant to America about 1660. Regards Danny Barksdale

1544 john barkesdale speenhamland speen brk archd berks will 7434 will of john barksdall of speen. inholder of spynham land dated 26 april [?] year of Hen8 soul to almighty godsd and all the holy company of heaven to be buried in speen church in the nicoyell to the mother church of sarum 4d to the high alter in speen church 8d to the repair of the same 20s and for my buriel 6s-8d to john barksdall my eldest son my 2 houses at shawbridge with 3 1/2 acres of arable land lying in shaw dene with all their appurtances such as partures meadows feedings etc also to john barksdall my eldest son the house that richard warmy [?] dwells in at speenhamland and the house with a barn and garden plot thereunto belonging in speenhamland that jhon stacey dwell in with 3 acres of arable land in perspoll field and 1 acre of arable in speen field also to john barksdall 1 cupboard in my hall, 4 candlesticks, 2 latten basins, my bed with the best coverings, 2 blankets, 1 bolster, 2 paris of sheets etc etc a chair in the chappel chamber, my table etc after the decease of alyce my wife to jane poure my daughter a house in speenhamland that thomas pere did dwell in to william poure to margrat brouke my daughter to thomas brouke my fox furred gown to jone wivill my daughter to john wevyll my son in law the residue to alyce barksdall my wife who is sole executrix overseers william hylrere of newbury and john widnam of newbury witnesses: thomas sowthwyke priest my curate, john barksdall my eldest son and others more.
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Re: Spenham
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 March 08 15:46 GMT (UK) »
The main parish church of St Mary's, Speen is still there. Almost certainly 'done ip' by the Victorians.  I am not sure what is meant by the ' nicoyell' - if it is inside the church there is a faint chance that a legible stone survives, outside then there is little or no chance of finding a stone.

Of course you need to check if he actually was buried there - just becasse someone asks to be buried somewhere does not mean he was. A well known and very wealthy local (Thomas Dolman) directed that he should be buried in St Nicolas' church, Newbury - but there is no evidence to show that he was.

The date I am most interested in is the first [?] in your transcript - the date the will was written. Often this is a matter of weeks before probate (for which you have the year 1544 but not the day - there will be a probate section after the will that gives this date), but some wills are written many years before death. I am about to go into Reading and may get a chance to check this out.

It would be nice to work out which inn he held - but I am not even sure which inns existed at that date. Something to check at TNA when I get the chance (and I have polished up my Latin).
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 March 08 16:30 GMT (UK) »
I think you will find that the term "inholder" means that he was an inhabitant of Spynham who lived in the property or more probably on the land which he held.  It sometimes simply means that he lived in a freehold property.

No Inn to be found I am afraid.

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DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES CAN BE FOUND IN SURNAME INTERESTS AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Williams, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse
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