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avm228
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And just to muddy the waters there is a birth of a Jean Lowe in Leeds Mar quarter 1926 ref. 9b 609. There is also a marriage of an Edith Gill to a Charles Lowe in Leeds, June quarter 1925 9b 730.
Are you sure? I'd seen Jean's birth and looked back for the marriage to find Edith GILL marrying John A. LOWE, Jun 1925 Leeds 9b 730
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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LizzieW
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Oh dear Anna, you are right, I don't know why I read Charles - wishful thinking I suppose.
However, I've just found a birth of an Edith Emily Gill, June 1892 Kingston 2a 318.
Lizzie
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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avm228
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We had Amelia's birth on the previous page, Lizdb 
I wonder whether Howard is able to be a little more precise on Aunt Mill's likely date of death, in order to minimise the number of quarters which need to be trawled through?
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Another Amelia Lowe death;
Grace Amelia Lowe, dob 19.6.1893 died Mar 1991 Horsham. 18 2240
As she was on the 1891 census, that date of birth can't be correct, her birth was Apr/May/June 1891 and the name of Grace has not been found before.
The only death of an Amelia Doherty I found was in Salford 10f 436, Dec.1956. That seems totally improbable.
I can't find any deaths for Amelia Gill.
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BENSON- Dalton in Furness (Ulverston) and Hull
BETTISON - Derbys
BOULTON - Dalton-in-Furness and surrounding areas
BRAND - Lincs
COCKETT - Lincs, Yorks, Lancs
DA COSTA (or variants) - Spain or Portugal, London (Middx), ?Hull
GILCHRIST - Scotland, Lincs
HINGLEY - Derbys/Yorks
MANN - Sussex, Kent, Herts
MUMBY - Lincolnshire and Hull
PEMBERTON - Ches, Lancashire
ROBINSON - Lincs
WHITTAKER/WHITAKER - Ches/Lancs
WRIGHT- London(?Middx),Hull
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I really must thank you all for your efforts, this has bugged me ever since I got seriously interested in my family history.
I had found much of the info posted which to some extent made it all the more ellusive. I didn't think there was a 2nd marriage or that they lived anywhere other than Hampton Middx but having your fresh eyes on the matter has opened mine to the possibilities.
I didnt know that little emily had died young, I wondered because I've had a case where a name was used again after a death so I wondered about Emilie and Emily
Leeds is looking very circumstantial but the following has just occured to me as I write.
I had found the marriage to H. Doherty and thought that discounted Amelia, However if there was a 2nd marriage, we would be looking for a Lowe/Doherty wedding. It's great to have people to bounce things around with.
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Howard
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I think Leeds is very likely to be a red herring, though because of the daughter Jean it needed to be investigated.
Have you considered searching the electoral rolls for the period you know the Lowes to have been in Hampton?
How confident are you that Mill was a sister of your grandmother as opposed to e.g. a cousin (who may have had a different maiden name from Florence)?
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Anna
Firstly: I'm not sure when gt aunt Mill died, I know she outlived gt uncle Charlie but probably not by very long as I don't remember seeing her again. I could be wrong I was very young when gt uncle charlie died but I remember it well. It was one of those significant moment everyone has in their lives. I questioned religion for he first time, views are very simplistic when you're about 4. I would have to guess at not before 1950 but anything up to 1960. my grandmother, next door, died in 1965 and I'm sure Mill was already dead.
Secondly: I haven't proven that Mill was my grandmother's sister but I and the two cousins I'm in touch with, all think she was. I looked at the possibility of her being my grandfather's sister but found no evidence. It is a puzzle. I haven't had a chance to look for a Doherty/Lowe marriage yet and have to take the OH shopping now but that could be significant.
Thanks Anna and all of you.
TTFN
Howard
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Hello again everyone
Well, I've now checked BMD's, No Doherty/Lowe marriage also checked Annis Gill, no records, Elizabeth Gill married Edward Hurst. BMD Transcriptions after about 1915 are very few. I'm at a loss. The only thing I can think of is that the married name was not Lowe, both of my cousins"who are older than me" think the name was Lowe.
Any suggestions welcome.
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Hi Howard
Do you have an exact address? I was just thinking about electoral registers - they should show their full names.
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also checked Annis Gill, no records
Are you absolutely sure there was a daughter called Annis? I couldn't find a birth registration in this name. If the only source for this name is a census return, then I wonder whether it was a misenumeration of Annie.
There is this baptism:
Annie GILL Sep 1892 Kingston 2a 364
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Hi Casalguidi
I do have an exact address: 7 Linden Rd, Hampton Middlesex. But I think you have to go to the Council offices to see the Rolls. Trouble is it's about 200 miles away. Unless you know of an on-line method.
Anna, You've done this before!!! I think you may have solved the Annis issue, it was just the Census returns and no further record found. It figures that the Annie you found is her, doubtful that she is gt aunt Mill though, she remains a mystery.
Thanks again.
Howard
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Hi Howard
Main local reference libraries/local studies house old electoral registers and often they will look up a small query like this for free but I'm not sure which one it would be for Hampton .................. Richmond local studies perhaps? Can anybody clarify?
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