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Re: osmond cookson
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 06 March 08 17:50 GMT (UK) »

Another spinster by the look of it:

Death
Jul/Aug/Sep 1901
Emma Rosaline Cookson
age 70
Headington ref 3a 524

wonder where she was in 1871/81//91/01
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Re: osmond cookson
« Reply #31 on: Thursday 06 March 08 17:53 GMT (UK) »

Got her in 1891 - she is a Nun!

Woodstock Rd Oxford
Convent of the Holy Trinity

Emma R Cookson 59 Sister of Mercy bn Guernsey
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Re: osmond cookson
« Reply #32 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:01 GMT (UK) »

oh my word.  brother a reverend, sister a nun.
I have found william on the 1881 census on familysearch.org.  the only census i have access to.  he is married to Louisa who was born in Germany and became a naturalised British Servant.  They had 3 dtrs and a son.  He is shown as Commander R.R. (4 Hire)  - (what would that mean by for hire?)

I have Osmond on other censuses.  He emigrated to South Africa in 1903.

I found a marriage for Dorothea Frances Cookson to a Levi Groves Reader in 1849 vol 8 Pg 229 in Weymouth, Dorset.

Laura, Bertha, Mary Ellen we still looking for.

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« Reply #33 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:08 GMT (UK) »

Aha - now that Dorothea Frances marriage I also found - but the other names on the page were Henry Davis, JAmes Hurden and Levi Reader.

I had narrowed it down to her marrying Davis, as I then found them on the 1851 census.
She was born in Hungerford, Berkshire. right age though for our Dorothea, aged 30 in 1851

But IGI has a christening in Hungerford for a Dorothea Francis Cookson in July 1820 - parents William and Caroline (not George and Elizabeth!)

so - several possibilities here for you to explore! Firstly it would be worth trying to get a squint at that parish register (I believe you can order then to local LDS censtres, or someone on Rootschat may be able to help) to check out those parents.
If they are W & C, then either this is a different Dorothea, OR she is actually not a daughter of George and Eliz but a niece or something - that is most likely as we have only seen her on 1841 and that does not give relationships.

We assumed she was a daughter. Lesson No 1 in genealogy - NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING
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« Reply #34 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:14 GMT (UK) »

You'll love this!!!

just look at her in 1881
RG11 2093 83 35

She's in Dorset, still says bn Hungerford...Dorothea F Davis

and she is described as "widow of a Clergyman"  Smiley
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Re: osmond cookson
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:20 GMT (UK) »

well, that is certainly an option of her being a niece.  but don't they normally list the direct family first, then nieces or nephews, grandchildren, etc?
Althought there was a gap of 5 years between her and Laura, and looking at the rest of the children, the age gap was quite small.
I only thought that perhaps the marriage to Levi was hers, as they were both duplicated.  

Just saw your nest message:

Oh my word!! This family is really making me laugh tonight:)
Now, the confusion gets worse.  Maybe she WAS a niece, and look at that.... she has a servant:)

Maybe you should look for censuses in all the convents for the others:)

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« Reply #36 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:25 GMT (UK) »

I think she was listed first in 1841 as it is age order - adults first then the children. Dont know that we can deduce anything from the order.

Laura Bertha and MAry are proving hard at present but I will keep on. There is always tomorrow ...
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Re: osmond cookson
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:29 GMT (UK) »

okay thanks. plse dont forget me and leave me hanging on these cooksons Grin

tomorrow is definitely another day.

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« Reply #38 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:34 GMT (UK) »

I havent gone yet!!

There is a possibility that LAura did not live long after the 1851 census

Death
1852
Laura Cookson
Chard reg distr
ref 5c 349

sorry no age at death, so it is only a possibity. You'd have to get the cert to find out more, to see if it is her. (Cant believe our one wouldnt have a middle name after seeing the rest of the family's names..)
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« Reply #39 on: Thursday 06 March 08 18:38 GMT (UK) »

okay good Smiley

i also been looking for her.  found that death. no marriage found for her between 1851 and 1871.

my husband looking at me quizingly as every now and again a burst out laughing.

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« Reply #40 on: Thursday 06 March 08 19:04 GMT (UK) »

The Times Thursday, Feb 24, 1848; pg. 0; Issue 19794; col A
"Deaths"
"On the 15th inst., aged 54, the Rev. George Cookson, vicar of Poorstock [sic], Dorset, and Writhlington, Somerset, youngest son of the late Dr. Cookson, Canon of Windsor, and Preceptor to the King of Hanover and their Royal Highnesses the Dukes of Sussex and Cambridge."

The Times, Wednesday, Apr 04, 1877; pg. 6; Issue 28907; col C
"Scene at an Execution"
"Yesterday morning John Henry Johson, aged 37, a tent dealer, suffered the extreme penalty of the law in the borough gaol of Leeds, at Armley. At the Leeds Assizes recently he was convicted before Mr Justice Lopes of the murder of Amos Waite, at Bradford, on th 26th December last....Before the cap was drawn over his eyes, Johnson said to the chaplain (Mr Rev Osmond Cookson), "tell my mother I die happy". The chaplain seized his hand and retained his grasp until Askern [executioner] had signalled that all was ready."  The remainder of the article is rather sad. Askern pulled the lever and the boards gave way, but the rope snapped and Johnson fell to the ground. "While the chaplain was praying that faith and fortitude might be granted to the poor wretch during this horrible interval, search was made for another and surer rope." Johnson was then succesfully hanged, but it took five minutes for him to die.

The Times, Thursday, Dec 17, 1925; pg. 18; Issue 44147; col D
"The Rev O Cookson"
"A correspondent writes:- News has been received of the death, on October 29, at Adelaide, Cape Province, at the age of 84, of the Rev Osmond Cookson. The son of the Rev G Cookson of Powerstock, Dorset, he was educated at Lancing College and Jesus College, Cambridge, where he was Rustat Scholar. Mr Cookson was one of the few surviving of those who worked under Canon Woodard in the early days. From 1862 to 1869 he was an assistant master at St Saviours School, Shoreham, now known as Ardingley College. One who knew him well describes him as noted for his physical strength and for his sermons. Though he was a poor speaker, the boys liked his addresses in chapel for their sincerity and brevity - on one occasion he preached for four and a half minutes only. After leaving Shoreham, he was prison chaplain at Leeds for some years, and then vicar of Elmstead. In 1904 he became rector of Adelaide, at the Cape of Good Hope, and retired last year."
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast
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« Reply #41 on: Thursday 06 March 08 19:12 GMT (UK) »

wow! thanks dave.  it certainly explains a lot about the family to me. His father is noted as Canon and Preceptor.  What do these terms mean? Does it mean that he was the physician to the King of Hanover?

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« Reply #42 on: Thursday 06 March 08 19:20 GMT (UK) »

"Canon" would mean that Dr Cookson was a clergyman of a particular rank. (Not sure about the hierarchy!) "Preceptor" would mean a teacher or instructor.

The Kings of Hanover were our own (British) monarchs, hence the reference to Windsor.  So the King in question would have been George III (1814-1820), George IV (1820-1830) or William (1820-1837).

PS: This does of course refer to Osmond's grandfather (Dr Cookson) not his father (George).
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast
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« Reply #43 on: Friday 07 March 08 08:56 GMT (UK) »

thanks Dave - that is really interesting. Although this is not my family I have had great fun following them in the last day or two.
So George was a vicar too, and his father a Canon - and a brush with royalty!

I'm not sure we will get much further with this family (though I will keep looking around) without getting some documents now. Like a birth cert for one of the children (Osmand is the obvious if he is your direct line) to find Elizabeth's maiden name, and Elizabeth's will if she made one (and I would guess she did with her investments she lived off) to see if that gives clues as to where her various offspring ended up.

This is certainly a very interesting family and I guess there is lots more to be found on them.

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« Reply #44 on: Friday 07 March 08 09:05 GMT (UK) »

Just to round off Dorothea  - who, of course, probably wasnt a child of George and Elizabeth! :

Death Jan/Feb/Mar 1885
Dorothea Frances Davis age 64
Wimbourne ref 5a 215
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