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KirstyG
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Hi again David,
"In the Cotburn District" After reminiscing about the Ellis family he goes on:
"Scorgie's "plaicie" was - and is- nearby. There were Jane, and Sally, and Geordie, near to my own age, with others I did not know. Geordie was a big strong boy, and we smaller fellows envied him his great hard hands when it came to a matter of "pandies" from the schoolmaster. I called and saw him some years ago, and he was just the same hearty chap."
James Lawrence lived at 387 Shields Road, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
There is also a mention of "the Lawrences of Scatterty" in a list of people remembered from School days (1870-80s).
I have not found any refence to Kelman or Sangster, but if i come across anything i will post it here. (Having just looked at the IGI I am guessing that Geordie was the son of a Kelman and a Scorgie - so in effect I have although she was not mentioned by name  )
Kirsty
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asgard
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Thanks very much Kirsty. According to my records James Scorgie and Isobel Sangster (who died Hill of Cotburn in 1873) had at least one son called Alexander (b Gamrie 1820) who married Isabella Kelman in 1843. They had
quite a few kids - one of whom was called George (b 1863 - also one born 1869) and another called Jane (b 1866). These might be the ones you mention. Isa might be either the Isabella Kelman (or even Isobel Sangster) mentioned above or her daughter Isabella (b 1854). Geordie I suppose is George. I don't have any mention of a Sally.
Another of their sons was Alexander Scorgie (b 1848 in Easter Bonnyton) - he moved down to St Vigeans, married Anne Smith and had my paternal grandmother!
Anyway - thanks for your help - I know what it's like to come across these old clippings and things. Two of my great grandfather's brothers (Raitt) emigrated to the USA in the mid-1850s and I recently came across my American cousins and they sent me some newspaper clippings and a journal one of them wrote about the arrival in the new land!
Regards
David
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KirstyG
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Hi Barbara, welcome to rootschat
It's so nice to find someone who has a real connection to the people in this scrapbook. I know it has really helped me to get a better picture of what my family were like from the brief descriptions made by James Lawrence. I would be very glad to get the chance to chat to you sometime. When you have made 3 posts you will be able to use the PM service and we could exchange emails if you wish, or just post on the boards. Maybe other people with links would find the posts like you did?
Kirsty
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KirstyG
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Yes it does!
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KirstyG
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Hi Norrie
I'll have a wee look when I get time and let you know. It can take a while to get through all the articles.
Kirsty
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KirstyG
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Hi Norrie
Sorry it took so long for me to reply. I've been through all the book now and nothing found I'm afraid.
Kirsty
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KirstyG
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There are also a couple of articles on the Rev. George Rainy Kennedy of Dornoch, written as obituaries (1899). If anyone is interested in them I could transcribe them. There is also a sketch of the reverend whcih could be scanned.
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bmwgem
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Hi
You mentioned thr name Milne in your list of names. Can you tell me more as I am researching Milne.
Regards
Gemma
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KirstyG
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Hi Gemma, sorry it took so long to get back to you.
I have come across a couple of mentions of Milne's but they can be somewhat vague. I will put them in context where I can.
From an article entitled "At New Byth"
James Lawrence states that Stackhill o' Byth was the place of his nativity and goes on
"Several Years ago I called at the cottage door, and was well received by the then tenants, a Mrs Milne frae the Howe o' Byth. She gave me a "curly cake" (but with no "carveys" in it like the promised Leith ones) with butter well laid on. I then photographed the auld place. Puir Sowl, she garred the tears rin fan she took frae a boxie a number o' my ain letters an' verses she had cuttit frae some papers"
From "The Ace of Spades"
"My own memories of faces and names are limited, but have been supplemented by "refreshers" from my mother, who goes back eighty years. "Jamie Meldrum and his wife Katie Wildgoose are made to live anew, through anecdote and "ploy," while the little shop of "Jamie" Milne "pronounced "Mull"), is again the venue of many a pleasant moment."
"Centenarians are not sand thick even in Buchan, but they are not altogether novelties, and I have a notion that Auld Betty Milne of Byth reached the goal. Given the sanitation of cities, together with the fresh air from Pisgah and the Auchry Woods, a couple of hundred would soon become teh recognised "reaching." "Carrier" Mackie looms up chatty and Jocund as ever. Some of the "greyheads" who read these lines may recall "Geordie" Milne, popularly, and maybe affectionately, known as the "Professor." He was a "crack," at once entertaining and helpful, although not always a stickler for veracity. Then there was another Milne, one who did carting jobs, using, at one period, a Stallion."
"There was the Walker family and more "Mulls" towards the Stackhull, and a "rickle" of stones and dry clay mark where once dwelt Weedow Murdoch, an old lady dear to me."
From "The New Churchyard King Edward"
From a list of children remembered from Schooldays by my Great grandfather
"Then at the schoolhouse itself were Nellie, John, and Tom Milne."
"As a closing word to-day let me set on record my deep regret at the absence somewhere near by the scene of his labours, of a visible appreciation of the altogether incalculable services rendered by that doyen of dominies, Dr John Milne. I know not where he is buried, but do know that he lives in hundreds of minds to-day in all parts of the world. Surely if ever teacher deserved posthumous honouring it was this great patient scholar."
This article was answered by a letter "From Chicago", written by Charles Meldrum which was duly published. The relevant section I have transribed.
"You enquire regarding the burial place of Dr John Milne. I can give you information on that point. Last year while in Scotland I had occasion to visit Springbank Cemetery, Aberdeen, and almost the first tombstone I saw was one erected to "the memory of Dr John Milne, late schoolmaster of King-Edward," &c. "
The letter also entions a visit during the summer of 1921 (which we gather to have been over a year previously), which should give an indication of the era in which these articles were written.
From "Selections from Correspondance"
"In my postscript last week I mentioned receipt of a few photographs. They came from Mr Duncan, of the Temperance Hotel, Crieff....
...Half-a-dozen smaller photos show his family and friends, including Miss Mary Milne of King Edward whos mother I knew well."
I will read further when I have time and see if there are any other mentions of Milnes and let you know if I find anything of interest.
Hope this helps
Kirsty
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mathieson-lassie
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Hi Kirsty
I was wondering if you had any mention of Mathieson or Watt or Duncan in your clippings or reminisences. My mothers family came from Bridge street New Byth and Chapel street Turriff and also Rothiemay in Banff, maybe a long shot but thought i would give it a try.
Karen
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KirstyG
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Hi Karen
I definitely have information on Duncans as that is the line I am researching, the scrapbook was compiled by a Duncan! There are several Duncan families in the book, do you have any names in particular in which you are interested?
There was a Mathieson entry which I have already posted, and I seem to remember one mention of a Watt. I am not at home just now but will check for you when I get back and see if there is anything more.
Kirsty
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mathieson-lassie
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Hi Kirsty
I have Duncans on my mothers paternal and maternal side so i will try to give you a potted version......
Paternal side
John Mathieson of mill of Boyndie parish of Boyndie married on 12/5/1816 Ann Duncan daughter of James Duncan in Cairns of Gight Rothiemay I have the OPR record,
they had four children the youngest being John Mathieson(16/4/1826-11/5/1915) he married Jessie Ann Smith(1823-27/9/1868)on 5/2/1848 in Gamrie Banff her parents were Walter Smith and Janet Duncan (no DOB).
John and Jessie had nine children all born at Ramsburn in Rothiemay, the second youngest being my grandfather William (29/7/1862-30/12/1943).
Maternal side
James Duncan (1819) married Mary Chrichton (1827) on 7/12/1848 in Auchterless
they had four children Jane 1849, James 1856, Elizabeth 1865 and Jessie 1869
James (farmer of 40 acres and blacksmith of blacksmiths house Bog Tamma) married Barbera Connon (1854) they had four children James Connon (1870), James Duncan (1872), Mary (1880) and Elspet (1991).
Jane Duncan (1849-7/3/1933) married James Watt (22/3/1845-23/1/1937) on 25/8/1877 in Auchterless, they had seven children, the second youngest being my grandmother Margaret (23/6/1889-15/11/1959)
William aged 65 a shepherd and Margaret aged 37 a housekeeper married on 14/7/1928 in Bridge street New Byth
My mother Margaret (9/1/1925-8/3/2005) was born at Bridge street.
I hope not too long and convoluted and keeping fingers crossed there may be a connection, the Mathieson entry from your earlier posting i didn't recognize but have kept a note ...just in case!
Thankyou for replying so quickly will wait patiently for maybe a next installment.
Karen
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