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elizabeth hardy 1861 and 71 please
« on: Thursday 06 March 08 20:46 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find an Elizabeth Hardy, she married Peter Ryan in 1875 at Crook.  I have their marriage cert giving her fathers name as Thomas Hardy a coal miner.

She lived at Victoria Street Crook when she got married, but so did Peter, so not sure if that was their house or her parents.

I would love to find her in the early census.  On the later ones I have she said she was born in Cumberland.

Any help would be great

Thanks

Angela
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Noble/Ditchfield/Barton - Lancashire
Doyle/Nicholson - Cumberland
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Re: elizabeth hardy 1861 and 71 please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 March 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »
Do you have y.o.b. and p.o.b.?

That would assist in a look up

Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: elizabeth hardy 1861 and 71 please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 March 08 21:25 GMT (UK) »
sorry

She was born either 1854 or 1856, on the  later census they all said 1856 but her marriage cert stated she was 21 giving her dob at 1854.

So not sure which one is right.  I would imagine 56, maybe she lied on her marriage cert.

Also the later census said born Cumberland NK, but no town.

Hope that makes it easier.

angela
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Re: elizabeth hardy 1861 and 71 please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 March 08 22:34 GMT (UK) »
This is the best "match" I can get

1861
farlam Cumberland
Thomas hardy head M 53 Limestone Quarryman Farlam Cumberland
Ann wife 53 hagton Cumberland
Thomas son 19 Coal miner farlam
Ann daughter 14 farlam
ELIZABETH daughter 6 Farlam
James son 4 farlam
Joseph son 3 Farlam
Joseph henderson Boarder farlam
Nicholas T hardy (can't read relationship) U 21 printer farlam
RG9 3908 32 24

looks like same family in 1871 -but Elizabeth not at home
Victoria St
Crook
Thomas hardy head m 65 Coal Miner
Ann wife 65
Joseph son 14 labourer
John Robson Lodger 30 Labourer ireland
all Hardys b. branton? Cumberland
RG4937 31 20

so this Thomas was in correct occupation and place of residence in 1871
Huh?

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Re: elizabeth hardy 1861 and 71 please
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 March 08 16:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for finding this for me.

I think that must be them, as living in the right street.  I wonder where Elizabeth was in 71.

thanks again

Angela Smiley
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Re: elizabeth hardy 1861 and 71 please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 March 08 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Thenearest I can see to it being Elizabeth is this
1871
(transcribed as Elizabeth Harle - image reads harle or Harde -and there is no Elizabeth Harle or Harde on earlier census)

4 Richmond St (beer House)
Monkwearmouth
Durham
Thomas Reed head m 68 Coal miner Northumberland
Jane wife 68 Northumberland
Elizabeth Harde (harle?) 16 Servant Cumberland
RG10 5021 34 74

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Re: elizabeth hardy 1861 and 71 please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 March 08 19:03 GMT (UK) »
thanks very much, wonder why she was that far away from home.

thanks again

angela
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