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topmarx
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Edwin Chapman
« on: Friday 07 March 08 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Please help. I have spent years looking for this one.

I have his daughters marriage cert. It names him and gives his job as a finisher.
She (Elizabeth was born 1831) was married to Samuel Harrison at Manchester Cathedral.
She was born in Manchester or Salford.

But I cannot find Edwin.

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Re: Edwin Chapman
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 March 08 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello topmarx

I don't know whether you have considered the possibility that Edwin may have died prior to the marriage of daughter Elizabeth to Samuel in 1852 .
I have come across this twice in my research where the name of the father is recorded in the marriage register and I can prove that he had already died . No mention was made in the register
of that fact .
Please forgive me if you have knowledge that he was definitely alive at the time or after .

I notice that on the Genuki site there is an Edwin CHAPMAN  registered as a death in the Manchester area December quarter 1845, but due to the year no age could be given as the recording of ages did not start till 1866 . I cannot see any others that would fit the bill , but it may not be a full list .   If you have a possible birth date for Edwin , I would consider writing to the Manchester registrars together with the application form and fee . If they believe that your facts do not match the certificate I have always found that they do not issue it and the fee is returned  . I don't suppose that you have anything to lose .
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Eric
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Re: Edwin Chapman
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 March 08 21:02 GMT (UK) »
topmarx

Have you found any of them in the 41 or 51 census? Do you know of any other siblings?

Take names with a pinch of salt until you can prove it, I have a marriage cert and an older brother was but on as his father. The person who got married his father died when he was 6 so never knew him, and must have looked up to his brother.

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Ken
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Hilton - Wiltshire,Prestwich Manchester
Millington-Manchester, Birmingham
Harris - Manchester, Salford, Southern Rhodesia, Aston Manor Birmingham, Temple Balsall, Knowle.
Jones-Higher Broughton, Cheetham Hill, Denbighshire
Lawton - Prestwich, Manchester
Smith-Manchester
Carey - Manchester
Cotterell - Lambeth, London
Fletcher-Middleton, Manchester
Capper - Manchester

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Re: Edwin Chapman
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 March 08 21:43 GMT (UK) »
It has been suggested to me that Edwin could have been mis transcribed But how do you know?

I have no idea of his birth year or if there were any other children than Elizabeth.

I did find a family living in Salford and children born in Salford
with a  child named Elizabeth who was 20 and worked in the mill as she did.

I think it was the cencus before she married.

How can I find out if this is her?
The mother Mary is a widow aged 52
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Re: Edwin Chapman
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hello topmarx
I appreciate your problems and don't want to add anymore but in the Trade Directory for Manchester and Salford (SLATERS) 1863 there is an Edwin CHAPMAN , shown as a packing case maker of 1 Burton Street , Hulme .

It would be impossible to say whether this is your man but my thoughts are that it might help for a look up on 1861 census .
I know some census records have been unfilmed and I only have access to 1851 for Ardwick transcribed by the Manchester FHS . He is not shown on it .
I don't know whether there is similar for 1861 , nor do I know how accurate the trade dircetories are when being compiled .
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Re: Edwin Chapman
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 July 08 22:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you Eric for even finding an Edwin Chapman. I will look at the 1861 to see if this is he.

This is only the 2nd Edwin to be found. Thanks again
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