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hippy chick
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« on: Friday 07 March 08 10:27 GMT (UK) »
HI,

I have John Wardell born c1798 in Middlesex, but spent most of his life in Hampshire, mainly Southampton.

On the 1851 census his occupation was artist and on the 1861 he was noted as artist and picture restorer.

Does anyone have access to any directories which would say if he had his own business, and if so would you be so kind as to have a look for me please?

In 1861 he was living at 5 Regent Street.

Thank you.

Jen.
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Wardell - Clapham, Surrey                    Wardell - Southampton
Carr - Barnsley, South yorkshire             Oates  - Sheffield
Burgoyne / Peat - Kilburn, Derbyshire    Burgoyne - Barnsley    
Boden - Bridge North, Shropshire           Bentley - Who knows?
Cheeseman - East Peckham, Kent
Day -  Egerton / Sutton Valence, Kent
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 March 08 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jen

Have you tried http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/

Barbara  Smiley
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 March 08 11:39 GMT (UK) »
There are several street directories on the Southampton PortCities site:

http://www.plimsoll.org/Southampton/streetdirectories/default.asp
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Middx - Vaus, Roberts, Eversfield, Inman, Star, Holbeck, Wyatt, Bickford, Smith, Redwood
South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #3 on: Friday 07 March 08 13:33 GMT (UK) »
thanks both, I can find no mention of him in the directories from those links, Regent street is mentioned in the street directories, but only 1,3, 4 and 7, no number 5!

Back to the drawing board then   Huh

Thanks,
Jen
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Wardell - Clapham, Surrey                    Wardell - Southampton
Carr - Barnsley, South yorkshire             Oates  - Sheffield
Burgoyne / Peat - Kilburn, Derbyshire    Burgoyne - Barnsley    
Boden - Bridge North, Shropshire           Bentley - Who knows?
Cheeseman - East Peckham, Kent
Day -  Egerton / Sutton Valence, Kent
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 March 08 13:40 GMT (UK) »
I found him in one of the directories - 1853 I think, but living at Totton.  If you scroll down the home page for each directory you can search by name not the address.
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Middx - Vaus, Roberts, Eversfield, Inman, Star, Holbeck, Wyatt, Bickford, Smith, Redwood
South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 March 08 13:48 GMT (UK) »
they were given as living Totton in the 1851.  Id only done the address search, thanks bearcat, I will take another look.
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Wardell - Clapham, Surrey                    Wardell - Southampton
Carr - Barnsley, South yorkshire             Oates  - Sheffield
Burgoyne / Peat - Kilburn, Derbyshire    Burgoyne - Barnsley    
Boden - Bridge North, Shropshire           Bentley - Who knows?
Cheeseman - East Peckham, Kent
Day -  Egerton / Sutton Valence, Kent
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #6 on: Friday 07 March 08 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Ive found him listed on the 1851 now thanks, as a portrait painter. It makes sense that he probably didn't have a  studio but I would imagine he went to residences to paint the portraits.

Ive also found two of his sons on the 1863 list, does anyone know what a flyman did? That is what his son Reuben was down as.
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Wardell - Clapham, Surrey                    Wardell - Southampton
Carr - Barnsley, South yorkshire             Oates  - Sheffield
Burgoyne / Peat - Kilburn, Derbyshire    Burgoyne - Barnsley    
Boden - Bridge North, Shropshire           Bentley - Who knows?
Cheeseman - East Peckham, Kent
Day -  Egerton / Sutton Valence, Kent
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #7 on: Friday 07 March 08 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Have a look at this rooschat thread which explains what a flyman did:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,251360.msg1389812.html#msg1389812
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Middx - Vaus, Roberts, Eversfield, Inman, Star, Holbeck, Wyatt, Bickford, Smith, Redwood
South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
L'pool- Plumbe
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 March 08 14:28 GMT (UK) »
So he was either a cabbie or a theatre hand, whichever he was he had a change in career as he too was an artist previous to this.
Thanks Bearkat. Smiley
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Wardell - Clapham, Surrey                    Wardell - Southampton
Carr - Barnsley, South yorkshire             Oates  - Sheffield
Burgoyne / Peat - Kilburn, Derbyshire    Burgoyne - Barnsley    
Boden - Bridge North, Shropshire           Bentley - Who knows?
Cheeseman - East Peckham, Kent
Day -  Egerton / Sutton Valence, Kent
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #9 on: Friday 07 March 08 14:51 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if Totton had anything as exciting as a theatre.

In recent years it has been voted the most boring town in England. Undecided
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Middx - Vaus, Roberts, Eversfield, Inman, Star, Holbeck, Wyatt, Bickford, Smith, Redwood
South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
L'pool- Plumbe
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Re: Artist and Picture Restorer
« Reply #10 on: Friday 07 March 08 16:18 GMT (UK) »
I shouldn't laugh, but I find that rather funny. Lips Sealed Lips Sealed

By the time Reuben was a flyman, he was living at Lower canal walk, and I take it that this was in Southampton rather than Totton, I would imagine that Southampton had a theatre .

I supect that he was probably a cabbie though Wink

At least it makes a change from all the Ag Labs that I have in the family!  Grin
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Wardell - Clapham, Surrey                    Wardell - Southampton
Carr - Barnsley, South yorkshire             Oates  - Sheffield
Burgoyne / Peat - Kilburn, Derbyshire    Burgoyne - Barnsley    
Boden - Bridge North, Shropshire           Bentley - Who knows?
Cheeseman - East Peckham, Kent
Day -  Egerton / Sutton Valence, Kent
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