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Yorkshire Rose
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Can any one help me please  . I have found my ancestors on the 1841 census and the place of birth is down as Mildenhall Suffolk. When I looked for them on IGI I found them but the place of birth was Wiggenhall Norfolk.  . Now I may have got two different families but the names and dates of birth match. When I looked on the vision of Britain 19th century map for Milldenhall it sits right on the red line, which I presume was the border between Norfolk and Suffolk.  Can anyone enlighten me please.
yours hopfully
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What are their names.
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Yorkshire Rose
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1861 Census
Thomas Griggs Head 72 Mildenhall Suffolk
Elizabeth Griggs Wife 50 Mildenhall Suffolk
Thomas Griggs Son 16 Mildenhall Suffolk
James Griggs Son 13 Mildenhall Suffolk
Robert Griggs Son 9 Mildenhall Suffolk
1851 Census
Thomas Griggs Head 59 Mildenhall Suffolk
Elizabeth Griggs Wife 40 Mildenhall Suffolk
Mark Griggs Son 12 Mildenhall Suffolk
Thomas Griggs Son 6 Mildenhall Suffolk
James Griggs Son 5 Mildenhall Suffolk
1841 Census Parish of Wiggenhall Mary magdalen
Thomas Griggs 50
Elizabeth Griggs 35
Elizabeth Griggs 10
Frances Griggs 8
Harriet Griggs 5
Thomas Griggs 1
I know that the ages vary a little, but on each census there is a vast difference between Thomas and Elizabeth's ages, and in my experience they weren't very worried about what age they entered onto the census records.
heres hoping
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Blue-Spirit
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Could this be yours ,
Thomas GRIGGS m Mary BONNET on 13th Jan 1813 at Wiggenhall St Mary Magdalen .
another listed.
Thomas GRIGGS m Elizabeth JAGGARD on 10th Aug 1828 at Wiggenhall St Mary Magdalen
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Yorkshire Rose
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Thanks Blue-Spirit
Mmmm, don't know about the first marriage to Mary Bonnett, but the second one to Elizabeth Jaggard looks like a possibility.
Where did you find the information. I looked on IGI and couldn't find it.
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Blue-Spirit
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Yes thats right, Thomas and Elizabeth seems to be the best bet,i got the two marriages the wrong way round.
The info comes from the Norfolk marriages CD 1801-1837....
I found the below on the 1851. which makes Thomas below bn 1891.
Thomas GRIGGS 60 Magdalen-Nfk
Elizebeth GRIGGS 47,School Mistress Bully Green-Cam
Sarah A. GRIGGS 8 Scholar Magdalen-Nfk
Downham
Census Place , Wiggenhall St Mary Magdalen Downham.
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Yorkshire Rose
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Many thanks. Is there a web address for the Norfolk marriages
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Many thanks. Is there a web address for the Norfolk marriages
Please read below again......
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Yorkshire Rose
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I now have two Thomas and Elizabeth Griggs on the 1851 census. The one you found ain Wiggenhall Norfolk and the one who belongs to me in Mildenhall Suffolk. I will now didcount the Norfolk bunch and take the out of my tree.
Many thanks Blue-Spirit for your help with that.
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Yorkshire Rose
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I wonder where my Suffolk bunch were on the 1841 census
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I wonder where my Suffolk bunch were on the 1841 census |
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This is a longshot but in 1841 there is a family in Mildenhall with a 2yr old Mark and headed by an Elizabeth.
HO107/1027/14, Folio 41, Page 15. The name looks like Matin.
Do you have a marriage for the Griggs as I can't find one on the Suffolk Marriage Index.
If not could the above be the family you are looking for and the said Elizabeth set up home with Mr. Griggs but never actually married him.
Just a thought.
Could explain the age gap between Mark and the younger children.
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This was on the SMI
Thomas Griggs
Ann Harvey
20th August, 1814 = Mildenhall
and the following burial
Anne GRIGGS
Date of burial: 11 Jun 1831
Age at death: 41
Place of burial: Mildenhall
St Mary
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Marriage
Thomas Griggs
1844
Dec qtr.
District: Mildenhall
Volume: 13
Page: 1165
possible bride Elizabeth Turner
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also on SMI
John Turner
Elizabeth Carter
20th September, 1835 = Mildenhall
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Trying to puzzle what Elizabeths surname is in 1841, but can't really make it out. 
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Yorkshire Rose
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Many thanks Suffolk Sue.
I did see the marriage in 1844 to Elizabeth Turner Infact that was the only marriage I found of a Thomas Griggs in Mildenhall and it would fit in with your theory regarding Mark being Elizabeth's son to a previous partnership, and also the birth date of son Thomas 1845.
On the 1851 census Thomas and Elizabeth are living next door to a William Turner (might be a coincidence). What do you think
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