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anitamaria
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Hi,
Can anyone help me with any info about Patrick Plumb born c1900 Wigan England all i know is after he left England he was living in St Ola Ontario ,also his sister Mae/May born c1909 Wigan England,she was living in Woodbridge Ontario,I'm sorry i have no dates,there parents were Alice Ann Plumb and Patrick Mullen.
Any help much appreciated,
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They are buried here:
Greenbush Cemetery
Limerick Township - Hastings County - Ontario
http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/greenwoodontario/GreenbushCemetery4.html
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Name: PLUMB
Given Name: Patrick
Age: 10
Sex: M
Ship: Sicilian
Year of Arrival: 1911
Departure Port: London
Departure Date: 29 June 1911
Arrival Port: Quebec
Arrival Date: 11 July 1911
Party: Dr Barnardo
Destination: Toronto
Comments: Party of Boys
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Photos of St. Ola, Ontario
http://www.township.limerick.on.ca/gallery.php?album=St.%20Ola
History of the Township of Limerick From 1888 to 1954
Story by: Mrs. Thos. A. Ham
http://www.township.limerick.on.ca/history.htm
It looks like his adopted family was "Ham".
Here is the 1911 Census for the Ham's, just a few months before Patrick arrived.
1911 Census
Hastings County - Limerick Township
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=54673
1901 Census
Hastings County - Limerick Township
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=54137&size=large&highlight=4
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Book: Historic Hastings
James Ham (2nd & 3rd link)
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=1085031
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=1085032
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=1085033
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=1085034
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Heritage Atlas of Hastings, Ontario
http://www.hastingscountyatlas.com/index.htm
Hastings County GenWeb
http://www.rootsweb.com/~onhastin/
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Mae (Mullins) Plumb
Woodbridge Ontario
First Husband:
Raymond Baird
Second Husband:
Charlie Supara (or Sapara)
Mae died: June 15, 1969
Buried: Hillcrest Cemetery
I have her death notice. If your interested please send me a personal message with your email address. (Please do not post your email on this posting)
Baird Family Site
http://www.baird.ca/
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Could this be mother Alice and family:
1901- 24 Broom St., Ince in Makerfield (Wigan registration dist.), Lancashire-
Alice Ann Plumb 33 single charwoman b.Liverpool
dau. Sarah Ellen Plumb 13 b.Pemberton
dau. Harriet Plumb 10 b.Ince
dau. Esther A. Plumb 9 b.Ince
son Patrick Plumb 8 months b.Ince
sister Roshannah Plumb 17 single cotton spinner b.Pemberton
And maybe mother Alice's burial (age tallies with 1901 census):
Wigan Cemetery, Lower Ince-
Alice Ann Mullan (age 72) 2 Feb.1940, R.C. add.- 8 Melbourne St.
and maybe another daughter? also in same cemetery-
Catherine Plumb (age 24) 16 Oct.1931 Billinge Union Inf'y, R.C.- address Melbourne Street.
See this site for more about Wigan:
www.wiganworld.co.uk/stuff/cemetery.php?opt=cemetery
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Hi,
Many thanks,
Yes this is the same family, I have seen the Wigan site, As Alice Ann Plumb c1868 didnt Marry until 1915 ,Im trying to find out what happened to her children ,
Alice Plumb/Mullens c1906 Alices daughter is my husbands Grandmother,Sadly there are not many relations left to find out info from,
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Anita
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Here is the passenger manifest for Patrick.
I still haven't found when Mae came over though.
Sicilian 1911
http://tinyurl.com/37obqg
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Well done in finding that information on Patrick Janice... 
I can't see Mae either on the BHC or anywhere...Mind you she'd have come a lot later as they never sent infants.
If Patrick's death in 1894...I don't think he was the father of Patrick or Mae
Deaths Sept. Q as Patrick Mallin age 46
Wigan vol. 8c p.25
Hi, Anita! You may want to buy the cert for Mae in 1809 to see what the father's name is...just in case she went by the name of the father rather than the single mother.
Also Mae/May can be an abbreviation for Mary...
nevermind I see I have that all wrong now...
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 whoosh, I am thinking this out wrong, as usually the father or mother or both
dies, then children are sent as home children.
having read through again...she didn't marry the father of some of her children
until 1915? and Patrick was sent away in 1911...I guess she was really in dire staits....
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Hopefully the Baird Family site will have more information. I can't find her on the passenger lists at all. (Either home child, or through regular immigration). 
I have checked the Ancestors on Board site, as well as the National Archives Canada site.
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Thanks again Janice,
The only Mae Plumb i have found on passenger lists is 1949, much to late for my mae, there is another sibling Esther Ann Plumb i havent been able to find, My husbands Cousin said she remembers her mother talking a bout a sister Nellie and also about Canada,
The marriage 1915 is right for Alice Ann Plumb to Patrick Plumb they had only been married a few months when Patrick snr died in Belguim in the war,
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Anita
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