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Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« on: Sunday 09 March 08 08:09 GMT (UK) »

Hello All.

Just having a "rummage" through my names again, as you do!
and my great grandmother is still being very difficult to track down. So I thought I'd ask you for help once again.

This is all I have on her...
Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH. Born I believe, Langley Green, Staffordshire around 1877. She married William SHARP on the 10th April 1898 in Ilford, Essex.

Any info would be very welcome.

Many thanks,
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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 March 08 08:35 GMT (UK) »

1901
William Sharp 26 coal man b Islington Middex
Lily E 23 wife b Langley Grey Staffs
William F 4 mths son b Ilford Essex
8 Yew Tree Villas Stanley Road Ilford
RG13 1650 fol 44 p 37
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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 March 08 08:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi FH

Does the 1898   marriage certificate have a name on it for her father?

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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 March 08 08:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi Isobelrus.

Thank you, that is indeed the family.

It is "Lily" herself that I would like to find out more about.

Do you know of this area where she came from? 
I thought it was called "Langley Green", but you say "Langley Grey"...

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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 March 08 08:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi AMBLY.

Yes, on the marriage cert it states his name as "Charles" and his occupation is that of "Keeper".

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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 March 08 08:57 GMT (UK) »

Theres a Langley Green in Essex but cant see Langley Grey although that was the pob on the census.
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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 March 08 09:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi Isobelruss.

No, I think the Langley "Green or Grey" area is in Staffordshire, as it is in Staffordshire that I believe her to have been born.

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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 March 08 10:23 GMT (UK) »

Hi FH,

There is a Langley Green which is part of West Bromwich, West Midlands, which, at that time, would have been part of the Staffordshire census.

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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 March 08 10:30 GMT (UK) »

Who were the witnesses on the marriage cert.Theres no birth 1875-1879 for Lily Elizabeth Gertrude Smith that I could see.With a name like Smith we need something a bit more to go on.The only Lily E of right age with father Charles was in Wednesbury on 91 census .There is a Lily M with father Charles a drover 41 b Langham Essex.
Were have you got Staffs from as pob is it just the census?
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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 09 March 08 10:41 GMT (UK) »

The only Lily E of right age with father Charles was in Wednesbury on 91 census .Were have you got Staffs from as pob is it just the census?

I spotted that one too ...frustrating the occupation doesn't match as there is a Laney Green about 4 miles from Wednesfield according to Genuki.

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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 09 March 08 12:20 GMT (UK) »

Hi
Langley Green is by oldbury west midlands
try this site the history of Oldbury,Langley and Warley
http://www.historyofoldbury.co.uk/index.htm

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Re: Lily Elizabeth Gertrude SMITH.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 09 March 08 12:40 GMT (UK) »

Hello All.

Thank you for the help.

Staffordshire is on the census as her birth place but also some old aunts had suggested that she "came from up that way".

The witnesses to her marriage were her husbands sister and her husband.

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