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Pallets Marriage Index - look up please
« on: Sunday 09 March 08 18:50 GMT (UK) »

We would like help on the entry of Robert Markeram/Markram/Markham b 1803 and Mercy Russell, b 1801, m 26/12/1824 in Oadby, Leices, in Pallet's Marriage Index 1780 - 1837. Can anyone help - will this give us their parents names?


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Re: Pallets Marriage Index - look up please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 March 08 18:55 GMT (UK) »

Very few marriage records at that time gave parents' names - unless they married by licence and needed permission. I looked at Pallots and it just gives the names. Robert is of Oadby and the marriage was at Wigston Magna according to that.
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 March 08 19:49 GMT (UK) »

Greeting’s Folks …..

Using the resources to hand …..

MARRIAGE. :~

Robert MARKHAM. ~ Mercy RUSSELL.

27th. December. 1824.
All Saints Parish Church.
Wigston Magna. Leicestershire.
By Banns.

BAPTISM :~

Mercy Russell. Born 2nd. December. 1799.
Baptised 29th. December. 1799.
Independent Wigston Magna.

Father :~ William.
Mother. :~ Jane.

If it helps ……
I can look at the Parish Registers on your behalf
This coming week at the Records Office Wigston.
Then report back on this thread .

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 March 08 22:46 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Mike for the very detailed and helpful information.

Markham is my Father's Mother's family, so I am particularly interested in them. I have constructed a basic tree of the family from 1800 - 1960's when Elsie Matilda Markham (his Mother) died in Leicester. There are of course many dates missing. I can e-mail this to you if you feel you would like to help. However if you can assist in Robert Markham's antecedents that would be great. I live in Harpenden and it is very difficult for me to get to Wigston and stay long enough to do some proper research

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 21:27 GMT (UK) »

Greeting’s again Simon…….

As promised ……

Fiche No. DE 644. / 8.

All Saints Parish Church.
Wigston Magna.

Registers reads thus :~

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1824.

Robert MARKHAM. Of the Parish of Oadby.
In the County of Leicestershire.

Mercy RUSSELL. Of this Parish.

Married in this Church by Banns.
By Me :~ Wm H. Walter.

This Twenty Sixth Day of December.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty Four.

Both signed the register by their Marks
Robert + Mercy X

Wit’s :~

Richard Markham. By Mark = X
Tho’s Ward. ( Parish Clark )

And for your Bonus….

St. Peter’s Parish Church.
Oadby.

FICHE No. DE 1136. / 1.

Registers read thus :~

BAPTISM ANNO DOMINI :~ 1802.

July 18th. Robert Son of Richard & Frances Markham.
John Miles. Minister.

And spotted this whist trawling the Registers

BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI :~ 1799.

November.17th.Richard Son of Richard & Frances Markham.
John Miles. Minister.

Hope this is of help to you.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 March 08 10:22 GMT (UK) »

Hello Mike

Many, many thanks for your dedicated trawling, we shall be back to the apes before we know it (my wife's comment)

So we now have Richard and Frances with 2 boys Richard and Robert - wonder if there were any other children pre 1799 or post 1802? I came across Richard a long time ago, Ithink he was recorded as living in a nursing home in Leicester and his job was a gardener, he died in 1883. Interesting that he is now a relation.

The next step will be to locate the parent's marriage record for their dates of birth . Curiously there are no other Markhams recorded on the Census who were born in the 18th Century in Leicestershire, so maybe they came from another county

I will have to try an get to the Wigston Record Office one day

Cheers for now

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 March 08 16:18 GMT (UK) »

Greeting’s again Simon.

Again using the resources to hand :~

St.Peter’s Parish Church Oadby
Baptisms but indexed as MARKRAM.
But with Parents Richard & Frances.

Tho’s ……..26th. March. 1797.
Susanna.. 9th. June.1805.
Samuel.. 25th. December.1808.

Burials :~
Markham   Richard   24   Nov   1847   Aged. 87
Markham   John   2   Jan   1848   Inf
Markham   Elizabeth   22   Jan   1867   66
Markham   Mercy   18   Oct   1877   Aged.77
Markham   Robert   4   Apr   1881   Aged.78
Markham   Richard   10   Mar   1883   Aged.84   Abode Leicester
Markham   Matilda   23   Aug   1884   42

Same Church
Sound a Like’s :~
Markram   Samuel   22   Jan   1832   Aged. 23
Markram   Mary   7   Feb   1834   12.mths
Markram   Thomas   29   ---   1835   10
Markram   Jane   5   May   1837   3
Markram   Susannah   7   May   1837   5
Markram   Fanny   25   Nov   1838   72
Markram   Frances   7   Mar   1842   19mths
Markram   Samuel   5   Jun   1846   58
Markram   Walter   15   Jan   1876   3

Umm. …… Just wonder if this is Richard’s Marriage ?

St. Nicolas Parish Church.
Fleckney. Leicestershire.

Richard Markham. ~ Elizabeth Peberdy.
11th. Or 16th. November. 1816.
By Banns.

Fleckney only being 5.6. Miles apart.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 March 08 17:45 GMT (UK) »

Hello Mike

Again a thousand thanks for the information

With regard to the marriage of Richard Markram and Elizabeth Peberdy, I have found a record in Pallots and also a Parish and Probate Record. Could you look these up please, I'm just wondering if further info. may be added to their marriage (below)

Richard Markham. ~ Elizabeth Peberdy.
11th/16th. November. 1816.
By Banns.
St. Nicholas Parish Church.
Fleckney. Leicestershire.

I am assuming that she was Elizabeth Peberdy b 1799 d Leicester 1880 and he was Richard Markram/Markham, son of Richard Markham, b 1799 Oadby, recorded in 1881 Census as an inmate in Trinity Hospital, Leicester, d 1883. If so they were both about 17 on the day!

It may also be the same Peberdy family who produced Sophia Peberdy b 1786 (daughter of John Peberdy and Mary b 1764 and 1766) who married George Ludlam in 1809. Their daughter Matilda m Richard Markham b 1836, in 1860 (Richard above was the Uncle of this Richard)

Whilst writing

You mentioned in your list of burials - Richard Markham d 1847 aged 87. Is this the Richard Markham who married Frances,. If so he would have been born in 1760 (37 years old when his first child was born - seems quite old) As there is no mention of Frances it is difficult to check

There is a Richard Markram, b 1766, still living, on his own, in 1841, maybe this is Frances's husband?

Regards

Simon


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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 22:36 GMT (UK) »

Greeting’s again Simon.

Fiche No. DE 636. / 9.
St. Nicolas Parish Church Fleckney.

Read thus :~
Page, 4.
Entry. No. 12.

Richard MARKHAM. Of this Parish. Bachelor.
Elizabeth Peberdy. Of the same said Parish. Spinster.

Married in this Church by Banns by Me :~
Peter Sinire.? Vicar of.....Arnesby
This Eleventh Day of November. ( Confirmation of the right Date )

In the year of our Lord
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Sixteen.

Both signed the register by their Marks X times two.

Wit’s :~
Robert Cliff.
Matthew Lea. ( Parish Clark. )

So just wonder if Arnesby is Elizabeth’s place of birth ?
by that the Vicar of that Parish performed the Marriage ……Umm

More digging me thinks …

Can you give further details on those ....." Probate Records."

Names, Dates. and Where ? .......in order to save further trawling .....

MIKE.


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