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Re: Ralph or Ralphs in the Midlands Area
« Reply #15 on: Monday 17 January 05 15:21 GMT (UK) »
How far back have you got with Jabez?
Have you pick up the Wedding of Selina Bradley and Jabez Hall 1867 West Brom Vol 66 Page 835, if not it may be worth getting the cert.
William Ralph, my family moved to the Wigan area in the 1880s from Staffordshire. Bilston and William is a common family name, all  are involved with the iron foundry's so this may well be worth a follow up if you think they are from Staffordshire. I have checked the data base and no Hall/ Ralph marriages are listed (as yet!).
If your mother  knew him as a cousin of her grandfather
what sort of date would that put on him or is this Jabez 1845?
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Re: Ralph or Ralphs in the Midlands Area
« Reply #16 on: Monday 17 January 05 15:38 GMT (UK) »
Mike,
May have found William Ralph (scrap dealer)
William Ralph married Elizabeth Hall 1901 Cholton Manchester Vol 8c Page 949
Without getting Marriage cert this still does not take us back to Staffordshire but Ihope it helps in your search
Charlie
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Re: Ralph or Ralphs in the Midlands Area
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 18 January 05 06:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, thanks heaps for that info on marriage. I am still hoping to find a connection with your line. I do have certificate for Jabez and Selina Thanks. I also have census copy for 1851;
William Hall  head 44 iron millman Sedgeley
Jane Hall     wife  41  BILSTON
James son 15 Tipton
William son 13 Tipton
JABEZ son 7 Tipton
Thomas son 5 Tipton
Timothy son 3 Tipton
It maybe coincidence but it seems we are searching around the same area. I havent looked up Jane and Williams marriage yet so have no idea of her maiden name. And so far I have ordered two jabez birth from the right time and both came back negative,one father Richard the other James. I do have one more to try though. I will have to try and rack my mums brains although she was born 1938 so She wont know that much, I will try though. Thanks again for all your help,regards Mike Smiley
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SHAWCROSS Newton Heath,Gorton, Openshaw
WIGLEY Wirksworh, Lancashire
BRADSHAW Lancashire
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Re: Ralph or Ralphs in the Midlands Area
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 18 January 05 23:55 GMT (UK) »
Just checked St Peters Wolverhampton Church records for a marriage William Hall /Jane and came across only one up to 1838
William John Hall (b) Jane Cork(s) 8th July 1823
Witness William John Hall / Samuel Hancher
This would put William at about 16 years at marriage so possible
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Re: Ralph or Ralphs in the Midlands Area
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 19 January 05 03:59 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that info on William. Elizabeth Hall is a later child of Jabez she was 1 on the 1881 census, confusingly they also had a child called Lizzie aged 4 on the 1881 census. Thanks heaps you have been a great help in tracing my Ralph connection. So it seems William Ralph was my Great Granfathers Brother in Law and not his cousin after all. bye for now Mike Grin
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SHAWCROSS Newton Heath,Gorton, Openshaw
WIGLEY Wirksworh, Lancashire
BRADSHAW Lancashire
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