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im stuck can anyone unglue me pls
« on: Monday 10 March 08 10:38 GMT (UK) »

im looking for the stocker family
children are i think
jonnas 1829
blanche 1831
samuel 1833
joseph 1837
william 1839
edward 1836 all reg under surname STOCKER
i put edward last because all the children are thought to b born in cambridge but i found him i think on a later census and he had his birthplace as andover hamshire
they are supposed to be the children of an edward stocker who bc 1836 in cambridge but i cant find birth details
and the mother is supposed to be sarah but i cant find a marriage
edward b 1836 supposed to b son of another edward stocker bc 1811 but i cant find that either or his mothers name, maybe it was sarah too
HELP!!!!
i dont know what happened to the children nor the parents everything ive tried ends in big dead end and im going round in circles all the time
pls any suggestions or results appreciated
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Re: im stuck can anyone unglue me pls
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 March 08 10:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi Gwen,

Any use?

1841
HO107/85/22 6 6 & 7
St Andrew The Less
13 Abbey Street

Edward Stocker, 30, Wheelwright
Jonas, 12
Blanche, 10
Samuel, 8
Edward, 5
Joseph, 4
William, 2
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Sarah Pearson, 30, House Keeper

All born in county.

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Re: im stuck can anyone unglue me pls
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 March 08 10:44 GMT (UK) »

Hi Gwen

1841 census  HO107/85/6 fol.6   p.6 
Abbey Street, St Andrew The Less, Cambridge
STOCKER
Edward  30     Wheelwright
 James 12       
 Blancha  10       
 Samuel  8       
 Edward  5       
 Joseph 4       
 William 2       
Sarah PEARSON 30 Housekeeper      
all born Cambridgeshire

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 March 08 10:49 GMT (UK) »

Well he was married twice second marriage is to his Housekeeper found above in 1841

Qtr Sept 1841 Vol 14 Page 3
Edward Stocker to Sarah Pearson

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:03 GMT (UK) »

Remeber ages are often rounded down in 1841 census.Here is a baptism to keep on file until you purchase marriage cert and confirm Fathers name.
Edward Stocker in 1804 age 2 m,son of William and Anne in Swavesey.

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »

The only family member I can find later is Blanche ...

1851
HO107/1760 355 12
Cambridge St Andrew the Less
38 James Street

Francis Spencer, head, 34, Printer Compositor, b. Hunts Catworth
Elizabeth, wife, 29, b. Cambridge Swavensey
Emma, dau, 6, scholar, b. Cambridge
Kate, dau, 4, b. Cambridge
Frank M, son, 2, b. do.
Blanche Stocker, niece, unm, 21, Dress Maker, b. Cambridge Swavensey

Given the birth places, Blanche *might* be Elizabeth's niece rather than Francis'. A quick look at BMD seems to show Elizabeth's former name was Maltman.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:15 GMT (UK) »

Cambridge Marriage
Jonas Stocker to Jane Shadbolt in Qtr March 1850 vol 14 Page 8

Cambridge Death
Jonas Stocker Qtr Sept 1853 Vol 3b Page 251

Above details confirmed on a website i found they had one son together Robert Edward Stocker in 1853.


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« Reply #7 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:21 GMT (UK) »

Tati ,according to the index of the 1851 on Cambs FHS
Jonas Stocker with Wife is H0107/1760 231A
Sarah Stocker and Joseph is H0107/1760 218 B

Havent got Ancestry at mo so cant look myself

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:21 GMT (UK) »

Oh good, Welsh Lady!  Cool So this should be Jonas in 1851!

1851
HO107/1760 231 14
Cambridge St Andrew The Less
River Lane

Robert Shadbolt, head, 61, Labourer, b. Cambridge
Jane Stocker, dau, mar, 20, b. do.
Jonas Stocker, son in law, 21, Wheelwright, b. Swavesey
Sarah Stocker, dau, 1 mo (? could be anything, really), b. Cambridge
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« Reply #9 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:27 GMT (UK) »

And Sarah and Joseph  Cheesy

1851
HO107/1760 218 35
Cambridge St Andrew The Less
Newmarket Road

Elizabeth Gray, head, wid, 45, Green Grocer, b. Swavesey
Elizabeth, dau, 22, b. Hunts Needingworth - blind
Ann, dau, 20, b. do.
James, son, 14, b. do.
Mary, dau, 5?, b. Cambridge
Sarah Stocker, lodger, wid, 41, Charwoman, b. do.
Joseph Stocker, lodger, 14, Errand Boy, b. Swavesey
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« Reply #10 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Probable first marriage at Swavesey

9th November 1828
Edward Stocker no age or occupation given but bachelor otp
Sarah Maltman no age or occupation spinster otp
Marriage by banns no fathers names given for bride or groom
wit Thomas Coulson and Abraham Waters

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:42 GMT (UK) »

Strange I can't find a death for Edward before 1851 - anyone else see him?

Here is a burial for Edward junior

Edward STOCKER buried 21 Mar 1842 Age 7 Resident of St Andrews the Less Cambridge Notes – Yard Swavesey

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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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Re: im stuck can anyone unglue me pls
« Reply #12 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi
The second marriage also from BVRI at St Andrew the Less, Cambridge
11th July 1841
Edward Stocker of full age a widower residing at Abbey Street occupation a wheelwright - father William a wheelwright
Sarah Pearson of full age a widow also residing Abbey Street father George Spinks a servant
wit Harry Cornell and Elizabeth Mathews

Edward and both of his wives signed with a cross

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« Reply #13 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:54 GMT (UK) »

Hi

There is a death on Camdex for a Edward Stocker in 1851 age 46  it appears to be St Andrew the Less, Cambridge from the reference - just checked GRO indexes and its March qtr so would have missed the census

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« Reply #14 on: Monday 10 March 08 11:54 GMT (UK) »

There is a burial of Sarah STOCKER on 28 Mar 1841 Age 34 in Swavesey Resident of Barnwell 

Which could be Edward's first wife? Undecided

Then Edward's parents

1841
Swavesey
William Stocker 60 Wheelwright Y
Ann do 60 N
William  do 3 Y
HO107/70/15/10 Pg13
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
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