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canal family shropshire
« on: Tuesday 11 March 08 14:00 GMT (UK) »

hi all very new to this site so please bear with me!!
im looking for the wilde family shropshire;
edward(edmund) wilde 1821 maesbury married a mary solomon but cannot find there marraige.there children eliza 1862, emma 1869, george 1850 james 1865 sarah 1852 all born in and around shropshire ie market drayton, ellesmere, salop ect, james married a sarah cholmondley in 1887 ellesmere, i have many variations on her name but can find nothing at all, it states on her marraige cert that her father is a matthew edwards??james and sarah are my gt grandparents, please could any one help me shed any light on the people i have mentioned please,thanks amanda x
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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 March 08 16:58 GMT (UK) »

Under a slight spelling variation....  Roll Eyes

Marriages Dec 1852   (>99%)
SALMON    Mary         
WILD    Edward
Camberwell 1d 715   

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts      
CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton      
LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton
MAY: Caulfield, Griffin      
SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 March 08 17:17 GMT (UK) »

hi ya thank you very much xx
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 March 08 17:28 GMT (UK) »

Do you have the reference for James' marriage to Sarah, because I can't see it at the moment?

AMENDED:  Just found it... Roll Eyes


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SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 March 08 17:46 GMT (UK) »

I think this might be Sarah in 1871:

RG10/3714; Folio: 15; Page: 23
Lock Boat, Alpraham, Cheshire

William HARRIS - Head - 21 - Master Boatman - Habington, Berks
Sarah HARRIS - Wife - 26 - Bildis
Elizabeth PRICE - 20 - Assistant - Whipton
Sarah CHOLMONDLEY - 2 - Orphan - Whipton

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SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 March 08 18:00 GMT (UK) »

oh my goodness i have been searching for anything on her... she has been the hardest, how can i find out if it is, and get her cert?
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 March 08 19:12 GMT (UK) »

I'm not coming up with anything for Sarah in 1881, and no sign of a birth registration either...  Huh

Just checking I've understood correctly: is her father named as Matthew EDWARDS or Matthew Edward CHOLMONDLEY on the marriage cert?  What is his occupation? 

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MAY: Caulfield, Griffin      
SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 March 08 21:56 GMT (UK) »

hi...
on the cert her father is matthew edwards and he is a boatman,... i have just completely hit a blank with her , and can only find her as married living in bunbury alpharam nantwhich x
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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 March 08 21:59 GMT (UK) »

sorry on the cert her name is sarah ann cholmondely.....aged 18, the only one i have found with middle name ann was born in 1864 not 69 surname spelt a little diff and i think its in wolverhampton Undecided
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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 March 08 11:24 GMT (UK) »

I don't think the Wolverhampton registration can be the right one, even allowing for a little leeway in age - Sarah is only 2 in 1871 if this is the right lass.  But like you, I can't see anything else vaguely possible...  Huh

Perhaps her birth wasn't registered (some weren't!), or she's under EDWARDS or another surname?  It's a nuisance she doesn't seem to know where she was born, as there are plety of Sarah Anns to choose from!

I'll see if I can spot Matthew EDWARDS in 1861.

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SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 March 08 12:17 GMT (UK) »

OK THANKS VERY MUCH..... ON THE HOLTS INDEX I HAVE FOUND A LOUISA CHOMONDLEY HER FATHER IS A MATHEW CHOMONDLEY... LIVING ON A BARGE AND REGISTERED AT ST MARYS IN WOLVES, DO YOU THINK THIS COULD BE THEM??? LOUISA BEING HER SISTER OR SOMETHING Huh
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 March 08 12:22 GMT (UK) »

Well it's certainly an interesting coincidence - I wonder how many CHOLMONDLEY canal people there were?  I wouldn't have thought it was a really common name...

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SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 March 08 13:10 GMT (UK) »

I've had another look at Sarah's place of birth on the 1871 census: I originlly read it as "Whipton", but now I wonder whether it's meant to be an abbreviation for Wolverhampton?  (I guess that "Bildis" is Buildwas in Shropshire, so spelling obviously wasn't a strong point!)

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CHS: Gosling, Hinton, Johnson, Marsland, Sorton      
LAN: Barlow, Jackson, James, Potts, Sorton
MAY: Caulfield, Griffin      
SAL/STS: Goodwin, Gregory      
SOM: Dowding, James, Jones

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Re: canal family shropshire
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 March 08 17:13 GMT (UK) »

i never thought of that.....
i thought i had never heard of those places before as the other side of my family all come from that way and i never came across those places.... very confusing family.... Grin
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 March 08 17:13 GMT (UK) »

but thanks for all your help, i really do appreciate it xx Wink
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