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genjen
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Iley
« on: Tuesday 11 March 08 16:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I have been going over some of my unsolved mysteries and have come up with a bit of a conundrum.

In 1783, Brompton by Northallerton, Matthew Iley married Mary Kendrew. I have no birth dates, or parents' names, for either of these two.

But the first child I have for them is a son, Matthew, baptised at Friary Yarm Catholic, High Worsall 17/12/1797.

There are further offspring, Peter, 1800, Martha 1804, and Francis 1806 but I can find no trace of any between the marriage date in 1783 and Matthew in 1797.

That seems like a huge empty gap to me and I am wondering whether I have made some fundamental error ( I'm not alone in this as there are several of us claiming and researching these ancestors).

What were the naming patterns for this area? Would a first son be named after his father or am I right that it would be the paternal grandfather whose name would be given to a first born son?

Can anyone find any offspring for this couple earlier than 1797?

I have Kendrew queries too but think they'd be best done separately.

I am very confused now.

Jen


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john franks
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Re: Iley
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 06:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jen,

I can't help with your query but I would like to register a sideways interest in the Iley name. My own name is Mellanby and I have got back to about 1700 in the Teesside area.

I am writing from memory as I am not at home at present but around 1750 I have a couple of male Mellanbys who have Iley as their "middle" name but as for as I can tell the name is not derived from a woman whose surname was Iley. The only clue I have is that in the will of my ancestor Joseph Mellanby there is mention of John Iley (of Norton I think) who was a business contact and also an executor of the will.

I know this is not relevant to your present problem but I write out of interest.

John


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sillgen
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Re: Iley
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 08:24 GMT (UK) »

It does seem odd. Of course, baptism was not always at birth or soon after. Some children were baptised much later. It might be worth your putting a query on the upper dales fhs website. They are based around Northallerton (part of Cleveland FHS) and as they are local they have a lot of in depth knowledge of the area and the records that exist. They have an email query bit.
www.bishopdale.demon.co.uk or google Upper Dales FHS
Andrea


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genjen
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Re: Iley
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 10:20 GMT (UK) »

Hello again,

Thanks for both replies.

John - The Iley family was pretty large and there were many of them around the Stockton, Norton, Middlesbrough areas. I am not that far back with this line yet, Matthew in 1760ish being my earliest known ancestor but watch this space - if anything new crops up, I'll post it.

Andrea - Thanks for this and your reply on Kendrews. I use the Dales discussion group regularly ( read mail daily and post if there is anything to say) but most of my Dales families seem to be notable by their absence! I live in eternal hope of one of them turning up in some interesting and ancient item of scandalous nature. I almost wish my name was Peacock or Metcalfe because they are always in the Dales news, so to speak. I have obviously asked my questions on Ileys, Kendrews and more and have made some progress but even with their help I have reached a dead (ha!) end.
I have been to Northallerton and gone through quite a few records there but had no luck with earlier baptisms. I'm not sure whether the fact that those I have found were baptised in a catholic church makes any difference. I don't know how the law stood on this and when RC baptisms were permitted. Very rusty history knowledge on this, I'm sorry to admit.

Regards

Jen


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