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John Raeburn Inverurie COMPLETED
« on: Tuesday 11 March 08 18:40 GMT (UK) »

I have traced my family to John Raeburn of Inverurie who was married in Monymusk in 1850. I can't find details of his birth. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 18:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi

What was his birthyear from either census info or his marriage cert?  Aren't his parents names shown on his marriage certificate?
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 21:24 GMT (UK) »

Hello Rickr

So, Your John was obviously the one married to Christina Fraser on 12 May 1850 (IGI, 'extracted').  www.familysearch.org

If you've got his marriage -you ? have his death entry with age of death.  Whch country did he die in?

The more info you give the more 'lurkers' like me can help.

Regards,   Steve   :O)

Off to get children in case you don't have them  :O)
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 March 08 21:35 GMT (UK) »

From the IGI

Can only find 2?

Both born Inverurie, Aberdeenshire - both 'extracted' - meaning copies can be obtained on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (PPV site)

1.  Robert Raeburn b. 23 Nov 1855 - this cert has to be downloaded as it will have unique info on it  - being the first year of national registration.  Mother is down as 'Christian'.
2.  James Raeburn b.  07 Feb 1858

Regards,   Steve   :O)
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 08:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi

What was his birthyear from either census info or his marriage cert?  Aren't his parents names shown on his marriage certificate?

Hi
His birthdate is given as 1820, but no parents listed.
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 08:57 GMT (UK) »

Hello Rickr

So, Your John was obviously the one married to Christina Fraser on 12 May 1850 (IGI, 'extracted').  www.familysearch.org

If you've got his marriage -you ? have his death entry with age of death.  Whch country did he die in?

The more info you give the more 'lurkers' like me can help.

Regards,   Steve   :O)

Off to get children in case you don't have them  :O)

Hi,
I've got marriage and I've traced children directly to me, but I can't get any further back as I can't find a birth record or parents names.
Thanks for your help so far.
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 08:58 GMT (UK) »

From the IGI

Can only find 2?

Both born Inverurie, Aberdeenshire - both 'extracted' - meaning copies can be obtained on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk (PPV site)

1.  Robert Raeburn b. 23 Nov 1855 - this cert has to be downloaded as it will have unique info on it  - being the first year of national registration.  Mother is down as 'Christian'.
2.  James Raeburn b.  07 Feb 1858

Regards,   Steve   :O)
Thanks Steve, Robert is my g grandfather.
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Rick

You would have probably looked at that birth cert that Steve refers to for Robert b. 1855.  Did it show how many children they had following their marriage - alive/deceased. Did it also confirm his age and place of birth?  Have you looked at wife Christina's death cert to confirm the names of her parents?

Regards.

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:12 GMT (UK) »

This looks to be John's 1851 census entry:

John Raeburn    28, innkeeper, b. Chapel, Aberdeen
Christian Raeburn 27, b.Woodside, Aberdeen
Ann Bisset    18, servant
Isabella Chisholm 18, servant
James Cran 26, servant
William Dunbar 58, lodger

Address: Raeburns Inn, Inverurie

And in 1861, everyone showing as born in Inveriny (Inverurie most likely):

John Raeburn    40, spirit dealer
Sarah Raeburn    9
John Raeburn    8
Bertina Raeburn 6
Robert Raeburn    4
James Raeburn    3
Sarah Fraser    26, servant (is this a sister to wife Christina?

Address: Browns Close, Edinburgh High Church

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:28 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

This is fantastic, I'm very new to this and had not found the census entries. Robert Raeburn was my g grandfather, but I can't get any further back than John. No sign of any birth record that I can find.
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:31 GMT (UK) »

Rick

I think at  least you might get another bite at the apple in terms of knowing who his parents were. I get the feeling from what I am seeing that Christina Fraser may have died before the 1861 census. There is this entry in 1871, indicating that perhaps John Raeburn may also have died before the 1871 census:

1871:

Elizabeth Coburn (Lawson) 27, head, lodginghouse keeper, b. Greenock Edinburgh
John Raeburn    18, step son, b. Huntly, Aberdeen
Robert Raeburn    16, step son, b. Huntly, Aberdeen
James Raeburn    14, step son, b. Huntly, Aberdeen
Alison Lawson    56, mother, , b. Greenock Edinburgh
John Geddes    31, l odger
John Jamisson    22, lodger
Michael Obrien    29, lodger

Address: 154 Cowcaddens St, Glasgow Barony

And a marriage:

JOHN RAEBURN  Marriages:Spouse: ELIZABETH LAWSON    
Marriage: 08 FEB 1865  Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:40 GMT (UK) »

This looks a possibility for mother Christina's death:

1859   RAEBURN   CHRISTIAN  FRASER   U   CANONGATE   EDINBURGH CITY/MIDLOTHIAN   685/03 0287

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:44 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Monica,

I've looked on the Scotland's people site and I can't find any likely death record for John between 1861 and 1871.

Any suggestions where else I might try?

Regards,
Rickr
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 09:45 GMT (UK) »

 Smiley This is his death entry on SP:

1870   RAEBURN   JOHN   52   MILTON   GLASGOW CITY/LANARK   644/07 0508

You are going to have fun and games  Tongue with this one. His birth was illegitimate.....

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Re: John Raeburn Inverurie
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 10:04 GMT (UK) »

Rick

This is the closest that I can see on the 1841 census for John which may connect with what you'll see on the death cert for John:

Barbara Raeburn 55, Independent
Jas Raeburn    50, farmer
John Raeburn    20

Jane Stewart    85, Independent
Christian Craw    18
Ann Duncan    14

Address: Denhead, Chapel of Garioch

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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