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Re: Is it possible to find the father of an illegitimate child?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 March 08 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: toni* on Thursday 13 March 08 09:44 GMT (UK)
i wodner if the paretns married after the birth the child muight be their with both parents of if it be in another parish it might be assumed the parents to be married but yes i very much doubt it would say born .... the son/daughter of ..... & .......


Very valid point Toni*

Whilst doing a look up yesterday on a George James Howman the whole family suddenly vanished in 1861 & 1871

Looked up his baptism on the IGI and found it 9.7.1826 with only mother Sarah listed and a bit further down the page the marriage of Sarah Howman to Benjamin James 29.12.1827

Then bingo we found him using the surname of James  Grin

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Re: Is it possible to find the father of an illegitimate child?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 13 March 08 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Your thread makes me realise how lucky I've been Grand dad grew up in a cottage Home but appeared on the 1901 census with his mother a widow and father who was literally "the lodger" He was registered in his name but entered the orphanagewith her name which he used from then on grt Gran never married Gt Granfather who skidadled leaving her to die in the workhouse infirmary and two children with no one to care for them. Then I also found a couple of Bastardy examinations in parish chests where the father has been named So I must be lucky  Smiley
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Re: Is it possible to find the father of an illegitimate child?
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 March 08 11:31 GMT (UK) »
It seems to be down to luck.  I've had a couple of illegitimate children whose fathers have been named on an RCE, several whose fathers have been named on the parish reg.  One or two who have taken their father's surname. And a few, including Gideon and Frances above, who are impossible to track down
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Re: Is it possible to find the father of an illegitimate child?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 15 March 08 09:19 GMT (UK) »
Hello All,
I'm involved with a DNA Surname group, & if you have a male relative from the same source as the unknown  father, then there is a chance.
Get this male relative to do a 37-marker test, (12-markers are virtually useless), & enter the DNA results with Y-search. Often you'll find there may be several matches with a particular name, eg you may find 10 results, of which, 8 are Armstrongs, 1 Jones, 1 Williams.
If you know you're whole family were from an area where Armstrongs were predominant, you may be able to use that knowledge as a starting point.
You could then look at Census returns: you may find a lad of that name living in your girl's village, & of similar age to your relation. If the other "candidates" weren't living close enough to be likely options, then you may be able to take a sensible guess at your lineage. Take a look at the likely father & see if the illeg child was named after him.
Some DNA results allow for a ball-park estimation of when your match was likely, ie a likely match within X years.
Like all things, a little luck is needed.
I have one case of an American with an adopted surname, who took a DNA test. Nearly every match was with Armstrongs. He followed that lead & found that his ancestor was an Armstrong by birth, & that this ancestor  was orphaned during the American Civil War. Some neighbours took him in & raised him with their surname!
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