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Passenger list 1939
« on: Wednesday 12 March 08 18:32 GMT (UK) »

I am trying to confirm the ship and the date my aunt left England on to start her new life in the USA.

Her name was Elizabeth Atherton born 1894, Wigan England and died 29 Dec 1963 in USA.
Her travelling companion was John Grant and his two children.

Both Elizabeth and John married when they arrived in the USA.  They never had children.

We think it may of been about 1939, as she was in her 40's when she left and also just before World War 2.  They may of sailed from Southampton to New York.  My grandfather loaned her the £200 for her ticket!

I would be grateful if anyone can confirm this for me, as there was a tabloid newspaper article at the time.  She missed the sailing and had to be taken by tug to the ship!  Apparently, the article showed a picture of her climbing up the rope of the liner to get on-board!  We would love to find this picture for our records.

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Kim
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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 18:38 GMT (UK) »

Have you looked for her leaving U.K. on www.findmypast.com?
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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 18:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi Kim, try EllisIslandRecords.org

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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 18:43 GMT (UK) »

 

Elizabeth Atherton aged 44 , occupation companion
leaving 14 Jan 1939 - Southampton to New York aboard the Aquitania

last UK address 33 Grassmere Gds, Harrow ?Weald ?Middx

sorry I can't read the last line very well it is very faint


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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 18:44 GMT (UK) »

Hi Kim, try EllisIslandRecords.org

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Ellis Island website covers N.Y. arrivals 1890-1924.
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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 18:53 GMT (UK) »

Sorry should have said there was also a John Grant aged 40, Chauffeur of 59 Grassmere Gds, on board the Aquitania  can't see any children.

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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 19:05 GMT (UK) »

NY Passenger List shows arrival Aquitania on 20th Jan 1939

passenger list shows:

Elizabeth Atherton age 44, single, occupation companion, born Wigan
visa or entry permit Sec 10 RF1224850 App 1218961 Washington date 14 Oct 1938


John Grant age 40
passport no. 582709
naturalisation  District Court New York 19 May 1924
address 127 East, 46th Street, New York


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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 20:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi Kim

A little extra information from the 1939 passenger manifest that Carolyn found...

Father Richard A Atherton, 59 Grassmere Gds, Harrow Weald, Middlex
Final destination, New York City, NY
Has ticket to final destination paid by self
Whether in the US before, Yes 1929-1938 in New York. Date of last departure 10/6/1938

Going to join Employer, Mrs H. O. Comshock Brockway, Lake Spahol, Cal.

Height 5' 2'', fair complexion, brown eyes, brown hair


This just might be Elizabeth...



1930 census, 447 57th Street, Manhattan, New York, New York

A Governess living in the household of Elizabeth Parmentier

Elizabeth Atherton, Servant, age 33, born England, parents born England, immigration year 1930, Alien


Hope this helps

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Sheridan - Leitrim, Ireland, New York, USA, Birmingham, England
Finnegan - Ireland, New York, USA
Gilmartin - Leitrim, Ireland, New York, USA
Cashal -  Ireland, New York, USA
Donnelly - Ireland
Reilly - Ireland

My husbands family research
Robinson - Birmingham, England
Turner - Birmingham, England
Beresford - Birmingham, England
Hall - Birmingham, England



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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 20:19 GMT (UK) »

Hi Kim

Also...arriving New York 16th September 1932 on the Aquitania

Elizabeth Atherton, age 35, Governess, born Wigan England
Father, Aaron ? Atherton, Crabtree Green, LLandrindodd Wells, Wales
Employer, Mrs. Elizabeth Parmentier, 447 East 57th Street, NYC


This seems to confirm that the 1930 census entry is Elizabeth.

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Sheridan - Leitrim, Ireland, New York, USA, Birmingham, England
Finnegan - Ireland, New York, USA
Gilmartin - Leitrim, Ireland, New York, USA
Cashal -  Ireland, New York, USA
Donnelly - Ireland
Reilly - Ireland

My husbands family research
Robinson - Birmingham, England
Turner - Birmingham, England
Beresford - Birmingham, England
Hall - Birmingham, England



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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 20:44 GMT (UK) »

Dear Yvonne and Carolyn

Many, many thanks for your information.  Yes, that is definitely my Aunt Bessie, as she was fondly known.  What is amazing is, we never knew she had been out there that long, neither that she met John Grant there.  She obviously brought him home to meet her father!!  (Well, she was the favourite).

Not only has this information given us the knowledge of that, but also where my great grandfather was between the 1901 Wales Census and his death in 1941.

Great ladies, now I can hunt for that newspaper article.

Thanks again.
Kim
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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 21:06 GMT (UK) »

Hi Kim

Really pleased to help   Smiley

Just one more thing...Elizabeth Grant arrived Laguardia Airport, New York on 18th August 1945, age 51 years 5 months born Wigan, Lancs
Husband, John Grant 965 Lexington Avenue, NYC

John was on the passenger list also...they travelled from Toronto, Ontario

Best wishes

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Sheridan - Leitrim, Ireland, New York, USA, Birmingham, England
Finnegan - Ireland, New York, USA
Gilmartin - Leitrim, Ireland, New York, USA
Cashal -  Ireland, New York, USA
Donnelly - Ireland
Reilly - Ireland

My husbands family research
Robinson - Birmingham, England
Turner - Birmingham, England
Beresford - Birmingham, England
Hall - Birmingham, England



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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 21:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi Yvonne

Thanks for extra bit of information.  Explains the photo of Canada she sent her sister!

The living relatives are chuffed to bits with this news!

Best wishes
Kim
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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 22:22 GMT (UK) »

Do you know where Elizabeth died?  Or when/where John died?  There might be more information if we could find that out.
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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 March 08 00:15 GMT (UK) »

Hi there

The only information regarding Elizabeth's death I have is that she died 29th Dec 1963.  This info was scribed onto her parents grave in Llandrindod Wells, Wales.

Elizabeth never returned to England, so definitely died in USA.  As for John, well I am afraid we have no information about him at all.

However, my mother does remember that they both came out of service and bought a restaurant on the New York waterfront.  Again, I have no dates or knowledge of what the restaurant was called.  It is such a shame the family lost touch before Elizabeth died.  All those that would of known are now long gone.

Anyway, many thanks for trying to help with added information.  You are most kind!

Best wishes
Kim
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Re: Passenger list 1939
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 March 08 15:18 GMT (UK) »

Hi Kim,sorry I misspoke re Ellis Island records yesterday BUT I`m sure you might find Elizabeth and John on the US Social Securty Death Index at www.familysearch.org. Click on search, then from the left hand list click Social Securty Index.
I had a look and I`m sure you will find them here.

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