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Topic: Elizabeth Perkins of Wokingham (Read 1847 times)
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BUZZ
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My gggGrandmother Elizabeth Perkins was born in approx. 1812 in Wokingham she married Thomas Bedford 12/10/1837 in Wokingham and died in 1885 again in Wokingham her father's name was Thomas her mother's name was Elizabeth and came from Sherbourne Dorset and was born in approx. 1791.
Would anybody have anymore information on Elizabeth's parents such as when Thomas was born and Elizabeth's maiden name.
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Daisypetal
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Hi,
If you don't mind me asking why do you think Elizabeth's mother is Elizabeth from Sherbourne Dorset?
I have found these two christenings on the IGI,
Elizabeth PERKINS
Christening: 07 JUL 1805 Wokingham, Berkshire
Father: Thomas PERKINS
Mother: Elizabeth
Elizabeth PERKINS
Christening: 17 MAR 1811 Wokingham, Berkshire
Father: Thomas PERKINS
Mother: Catherina
Elizabeth BEDFORD consistently says she was born 1809-1812 so I would think the earlier Elizabeth is the wrong one. If the later Elizabeth could be correct then this looks like her mother Catherine,
Catharine EELS
Christening: 12 FEB 1786 Hawley, Hampshire
Father: William EELS
Mother: Hannah
Thomas PERKINS
Spouse: Catherine ELES
Marriage: 03 MAY 1810 Wokingham, Berkshire
In 1841 it looks like Elizabeth & Thomas BEDFORD's son William is living/staying with Grandma 
1841 HO107/28/15 f.9 p.13 Wokingham
Peach St
Catherine PERKINS 55 No
William " " 20 Ys
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William BEDFORD 2 Ys
1851 HO107/1693 f.262 p.21 Wokingham
11 Alms House
Catherine PERKINS Wid 65 Alms House Laundress Hants
1861 RG9/750 f.105 p.3 Wokingham
Almshouses
Catherine PERKINS Head 78 Fishmonger Hampshire Hawley
Elizabeth DOUGLASS Partner 70 Agriculture Berks Wokingham
Regards
Daisy
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BUZZ
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Hi Daisy
I'm sure your facts are correct.
I found an Elizabeth Perkins in the 1851-61 census who was a widow and seemed to fit the bill.
I was jumping to conclusions.
But you must be correct because William the grandson of Catherine is back with his family in the 1851 census age 12 and living on Peach St.
Incidentally on the 1841 census Catherine's husband Thomas is the last name on the previous page.
Thank you for all the information i am very grateful.
Regards
Buzz
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behindthefrogs
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The Perkins family were fairly significant in Wokingham in the second half of the 19th century.
One ran the Old Curiosity Shop in Denmark Street in 1880. By 1900 his sons were running theWokingham Motor and Cycle Works in the Market Place and Peach Street. Later they ran the garage in Broad Street.
In 1937 Frank Stanley Perkins was mayor of Wokingham.
These may of course not be your family but it seemed worth posting the information.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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BUZZ
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Hi David
Thank you for the information.
Some of my ancestors whether Perkins or Bedford lived on Peach St. through out the 1800's.
Regards
Buzz
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behindthefrogs
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If you wanty more just say. One of their descendants used to live next door to me. The two brothers who ran the motor and cycle works were Alan Perkins and Eric Perkins .
I live about a mile from the centre of Wokingham and many of the buildings haven't changed in the last 100 years.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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BUZZ
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Hi David
Thank you for your offer.
The Perkins that i'm trying to find more information on is Thomas who in the 1841 census is as Daisy points out living on Peach St. age 55 so he was born approx. 1786 in the county.
Daisy states when he married.
And i believe he died Sept. 1/4 1847 in Wokingham.
If you have any more information on Thomas or his ancestors i would be very grateful.
Regards
Buzz
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behindthefrogs
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Sorry,
I am failing to get back to the middle of the 19th century with the Perkins' history in Wokingham. I have found that some of the family were in Tasmania for a period and I can't get back beyond that block. It is not helped by the fact that I can't get any accurate dates.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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BUZZ
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Hi David
Thank you for your reply.
I'd never heard in the family that someone may have travelled to Tasmania.
Regards Buzz
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fletcherhist
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Hi,
Excuse me for butting in but to my knowledge, Herbert Howard Perkins (1851-1928), father of Stanley, Eric and Alan etc, came from Tasmania. He and his wife, Emily are buried in St. Paul's Churchyard with one of their sons, Walter.
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Fletcherhist
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behindthefrogs
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I thought that either Herbert Howard or his parents were born in the Wokingham area and then went out to Tasmania. Unfortunately my neighbour who was a member of the family died a number of years ago and so I have no way of checking.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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BUZZ
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Hi to both of you
Perhaps Herbert's parents and Thomas were cousins (or brothers) as it seems they may have both come from Wokingham I need to trace Thomas's parents.
Thank you both for your information.
Buzz
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behindthefrogs
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Howard Perkins in his notes on the family in volume10 of the Wokingham Historian confirms that Howard Heard Perkins sailed for Hobart in Tasmania two years after the birth of his son Herbert Howard Perkins to join an uncle in a grocery business called "Perkins and Nephew".
They came back after about three years with a further son Eric Heard Perkins who was born in Tasmania.
There are further articles about the family in volumes 8 and 11 written by members of the family.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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fletcherhist
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This is true but if you look up the censuses Herbert Howard gives his birthplace as being Tasmania.
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Fletcherhist
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behindthefrogs
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I agree that in 1881 he gives his birth place as Tasmania but in 1891 and 1901 it is Berkshire England. I can only access the indexes at the moment and so I can't see the actual town, nether can I find him in earlier census.
David
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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