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Waterloo Hampshire
« on: Wednesday 12 March 08 20:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi I am trying to find out any info on one of my ancestors who had a pub in Hampshire.

Fanny GREENTREE (nee BRYANT) who married a Edward GREENTREE

Both ran a pub in 1881 at Waterloo Hampshire called The Waterloo inn

Any info or links would be a Great help.

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 23:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi mr. mazie

Births Dec 1839 Penzance 9/ 2_8  Bryant    Fanny   
     
marriage  Dec 1870 Bideford 5b   957
Fanny Mitchell   Bryant      Edward Greentree   

1841 census  HO107/142/10 fol.24 p.14     
Lelant Town, Uny Lelant, St Ives, Cornwall
BRYANT
John    35  Farmer
Priscilla 35
John     16
Elizabeth 13
Cathrine  11
Livinia       9
Priscilla     7
Thomas    5
Caroline   4
Fanny    18 months
all born Cornwall

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 23:58 GMT (UK) »

1851 census HO107/1917
Brewery, Uny Lelant, Cornwall
BRYANT
John     head m 49 Ag Lab  Uny Lelant, Cornwall
Priscilla wife  m 52              Gwinear         "
Elizabeth dau s 23
Lavinia      "    s 19 School Mistress
Priscilla     "    s 17 An Assistant in the Lelant National School
Thomas   son    14 Ag Lab
Fanny     dau     10 Scholar
Richard H son     8      "
All children born Uny Lelant

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 March 08 00:06 GMT (UK) »

Mr Mazie -

I think this might be Waterlooville ?  Near Portsmouth?

The village was named after the inn, which was opened in 1815 and named for obvious reasons!

If you google Waterlooville there is quite a lot available, it seems, and although I have't read it all, the history of the Inn is mentioned - maybe further on it tells about whether it is still going  Cheesy
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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 March 08 00:08 GMT (UK) »

1861  RG 9/1500 fol.31 p.1
Parsonage House, Wincott, Peters Marland, Devon
in household of John Henry Rizwan, curate
Fanny Bryant servant unm 21  Nurse  Lelant Cornwall

1861 RG9/1588 fol.81 p.12
Lelant Town, Uny Lelant, Cornwall
BRYANT
John head Mar 59 Agricultural Labourer  Lelant
Prescilla Wife    Mar 61         Gwinear
Lavinia  Dau  Unm 29 Grocer   Lelant
Pricilla   Dau     "   27 Schoolmistress   Lelant
Richard H  Son Unm 18 Blacksmith   Lelant
Job M    Son     7         Scholar   Lelant
William BOUNDY  Visitor Unm 23 Travelling Draper Lelant

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 March 08 00:19 GMT (UK) »

1871  RG10/1217 Fol.13    P.17   (indexed as Grdarard Grenker!)
High Street, Hambledon, Hampshire
Edward Greentree head m 46 Master Carpenter  Hampshire Hambledon
Fanny M     "           wife m  31                 Cornwall, Lelant
Alice Withers  servant        13 Gen Servant  Hampshire Hambledon

IGI has marriage for the parents:
John Bryant to Priscilla Scadon  11 Dec 1824 Lelant Cornwall
baptisms for most of the children are on IGI, but not Fanny

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 March 08 18:26 GMT (UK) »

Thank you very much for the info thats Great. I have some of the info you have found out but with the rest you have filled in the blanks for me.

Another part I am looking for is the info on the pub called Waterloo and also if possable a photo so any links to this would be wounderfull.

Edward and Fanny had a son called Ernest while at the Inn at waterloovillein 1881 but 10 years later she was a widow back in Cornwall at Antony with the Kirwan family as house keeper.

Cant find any more info what happend to her husband or son. Any help with this brick wall would be very appreciated.

Once more thank you very much  Wink
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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 March 08 18:53 GMT (UK) »

I think Mum44 said that if you google the name you can find quite a bit of information.

Here are pics of pubs in Waterlooville:
http://www.pubinnguide.com/waterloo/pubs_1.htm

not sure which one it was but if you read these articles they may explain how its name was changed
http://www.localhistories.org/waterlooville.html
http://www.havant.gov.uk/havant-2194

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 March 08 18:59 GMT (UK) »

Thank you both very much will try the links

Best wishes  Kiss
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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 March 08 19:01 GMT (UK) »

In 1881 census Ernest is described as Grandson of Edward and Fanny - are you sure he was their son?

I think you may find he's entered twice on  the census, the other time is with his mother and family at Farlington Hampshire: RG11/1138 fol.35 p.27

maybe son of a son from a first marriage for Edward Greentree?

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 March 08 19:26 GMT (UK) »

Once more thank you.  I will start to look in to this as the info I was given was very limited at the start of this thread.

So I may have remember all that was said to me over the phone.

George  Wink
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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 March 08 19:53 GMT (UK) »

Yes, that Edward must have been grandson and enumerated twice in 1881.

Here's your Edward in 1861 before marrying Fanny, he's a widower with son Augustus who later is young Edward's father

1861 RG9/698 fol.9 p.12
GREENTREE (indexed as Grantree)
High St, Hambledon, Hampshire
Edward head mar 36  Butcher (Master) Hambledon
Samuel  son         11  Scholar        Fareham
Augustus  "           10       "                "

death reg for Eliza Greentree 1857 Dec Qu Fareham 2b 289

1851 HO107/1661 fol.188 p.25
High Street, Fareham
GREENTREE
Edward head m 27 Innkeeper  Hambledon
Eliza      wife  m 32                   Portsmouth
Samuel  son        1                   Fareham

so I think if you see Edward and Fanny's marriage cert it should show he was a widower

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 March 08 18:23 GMT (UK) »

Thats very intersting. Now have a lot to work on.

Thank you very much for all the help with this one and for all the info.

Best wishes George
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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 March 08 18:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi I have looked up the info but cant find the info in the 1861 cen. I have found the info for 1851.

Will keep trying.

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Re: Waterloo Hampshire
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 March 08 19:08 GMT (UK) »

Hi George,

Sorry, should have said, Census 1861 if you're looking on ancestry the surname is transcribed in the index as Grantree  Roll Eyes

Or try entering Augustus and the census ref I gave you  RG9/698 fol.9 p.12

I have sent a correction to ancestry

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