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Heather DD
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I know ...this family don't seem to know the rules, do they? 
Other people are miles better at the social history stuff than me, but it was a time of expansion for the railways and Thomas may simply have been following the work before finally settling in Notts. I did wonder at first if they had traveller connections (as Smith is a common traveller name), but no hard evidence of that showing.
We don't know for sure that Selina did live with her grandmother. It was a snapshot of census night and she could just have been visiting. Or maybe grandma, getting on in years, needed a extra pair of hands. Families had to look after each other in those days.
As for why Alice didn't get baptised 1868/9, she appears to have been already married.
Marriage 28/01/1868 Nottingham All Saints, Thomas Smith Smallwood and Alice Delilah Smith. And yes I know her second name was given as Adelaide in one census, but in later censuses Alice Smallwood is born Glamorgan at the right time to be yours.
All conjecture of course 
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Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood Derbyshire: Starbrook Somerset: Willmott, Elliott Cork:Driscoll, Murphy London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman London Kent:Cheesman Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Burto
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Can I be a pain (just to put my mind at rest) and ask if someone would mind checking that the Selina in 1861 was actually born in Mansfield? The one I found was staying with Ann Hingley Grandmother, but I found it ages ago on Ancestry and didn't make a copy.
If anyone could help I would be most grateful....I just want to check I definately have the right person before going round saying I now have Staffordshire roots care of her father!
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Swift , Cross, Matthews, Hudson , Price , Clarke , Elliot, Rockley, Dewey, Turton, Nottingham
Aldread, Brentnall, Cowlishaw Derbyshire
Smith Bilston Staffordshire
Bennett, Calary? Ireland
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Gardener
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No probs. I did start by checking the 1861 anyhow.
1861
King St,Duffield
Ann Hingley,head,wid,83,Derby, Little Eaton
Selena Smith,gdau,8,Notts,Mansfield
Thomas Sherwin,lodger,u,25,lab,Derby,Duffield
RG9-2507/43
1851
King St,Duffield
Ann Hingley,head,w,74,pauper formerly servant,Derby,Little Eaton
(She is 4 households away from Thomas and Ann Smith)
HO107-2144/141
Selina Smith bpt 27 Sept 1840 Duffield, parents Thomas and Ann Smith
(presume she died, there is a death reg at Belper Dec qtr 1840)
Alice Smith bpt 23 Aug 1847 Duffield, parents Thomas and Ann Smith
Enock Smith bpt 23 Aug 1847 Duffield, parents Thomas and Ann Smith
(from IGI)
Can't tell if that Alice is the same one as in the census. John Thomas seems to have slipped the net 
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Burto
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So my Selina should be Selina the second?! I guess she must have gone to Duffield to help her Grandma in 1861.
many thanks for all your help.
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Burto
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Hi,
Is there anything for Thomas Smith in the 1841 census when he was 25? I see Ann Smith was living with her parents, Thomas and Ann Hingley, but I wonder where her husband was?
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Burto
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23 July 1838 Saint Alkmund Derby
Ann Hingley (father Thomas Hingley) and Thomas Smith (father John Smith)
source extracted IGI entry
Hi,
Just having a look at this line again....does the above source mention the father's occupations, or do I need to send off for the certificate? Are the occupations likely to help in tracking down the Smiths?
Thanks.
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Swift , Cross, Matthews, Hudson , Price , Clarke , Elliot, Rockley, Dewey, Turton, Nottingham
Aldread, Brentnall, Cowlishaw Derbyshire
Smith Bilston Staffordshire
Bennett, Calary? Ireland
Johnson, US of A
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Heather DD
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Hi Burto,
like I said that one came from the IGI so you'd need to either get the cert or check the parish records for the full details. Who knows ...it might help ...could be a useful witness or two there also
All the best, Heather
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Nottinghamshire: Willmott, Williams, Oldham, Padgett, Burden, Stokes, Huskinson, Tuckwood, Morley, Barnett Lincolnshire: Foster, Dennis, Mowbray Leicestershire: Mowbray,Hudson, Tuckwood Derbyshire: Starbrook Somerset: Willmott, Elliott Cork:Driscoll, Murphy London Surrey:Driscoll, Cheesman London Kent:Cheesman Kent:Cheesman, Davis, West, Hills, Kneller, Bones, Eastup Census information is crown copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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