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Topic: Underage marriage and permission (Read 901 times)
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trish251
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Hi All
Waiting for answers to my request to NSW State Library, and also Hawkesbury Library.
However, I am looking at a book self published in 1995, re another branch of the family. The author undertook meticulous research, that I can see, and on the subject of BMD certificates, and Church registers, this appears in his list of sources:
"Cobar, Wesleyan Church, [/i]Marriage register -[i] marriage of Samuel William Smith and Sarah Costello (Buckley). Additional information on the register not shown on the certificate shows the groom's birthplace, parentage, and father's occupationh, plus the bride's birthplace, parentage and father's name and occupation".
So it seems that certainly in some cases, not all the information appears on BMD certificates.
Annette
That is certainly the case for many certificates post civil registration (after 1855 until c. 1918 I believe) as the churches apparently did not submit all the information to the registry. I was of the impression that the registry information pre 1855 was the church registers. If this is not the case I would be most interested as I would love more information from a couple of my early marriages. What year was the marriage you mentioned above?
Trish
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scrappyshaz
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Trish,
The one I got was 1863, so am not sure about the early records. As the Archive microfilms were of the registers, you would expect to have all the details - however it might be worth a try if you have a brick wall.
Shaz
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HOLTON - Buckingham, Middlesex, New Zealand, Australia
JARVIS - Buckingham, Hertford, Australia
CROSS - Walmer Kent, New Zealand
PURSER - Idlicote, Warwickshire
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acookey
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Katherine Pasley
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Hi All
Trish, that marriage was 1895. The marriage that I am waiting on was 1853, so from what you say, it will be interesting to see if there is further information on the church record.
Annette
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Cooke, Aust. England
Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
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acookey
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Katherine Pasley
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Hi All
Not good news on all fronts. Someone very kindly did a look up for me of the St Matthews RC records in the Hawkesbury City Council Library, and there was no further information on the Register than was on the Marriage Certificate for Edward Cullen and Jane Harrison.
I also heard from NSW State Library today, and they have searched all records that they hold for Edward Cullen's baptismal record and were not able to find anything. What they have is the same as SAGS and included some records from the Mitchell Library.
The State Library person did say that St Mary's Cathedral still holds some records that have not released.
So I am very disappointed, but will keep hoping. I will also put a post on my other thread.
 Annette
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Cooke, Aust. England
Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
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MarieC
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In Queensland, Oz
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Bad luck, Annette! So sorry you have found nothing to further your enquiries. But I'm glad you had a good response from the NSW State Library! 
Am not sure what you can do about St Mary's Cathedral. You can't discover that you are a distant relation of Cardinal Pell, perchance??
MarieC
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