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hume24
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Is anyone researching the surnames TAYLOR or STEWART/STUART in Inveravon, Banffshire? I have a bit of a problem with these families! 
James TAYLOR was born around 1837/1840 in Inveravon. On his marriage in 1860 (aged 20 supposedly), he says his parents are James TAYLOR, excise officer (deceased), and Helen STUART, domestic servant. Since there's no MS (maiden surname), etc), I assume his parents weren't married when he was born. I also take it that Helen is still alive in 1860, although this may be incorrect (can't find her!). 
I have found a possible for James in 1851, working as an ag. lab in Marnoch, aged 14, but I can't see a lot for 1841. I have found one living with a Stewart family in Ordiquhill but no sign of Helen. Same with father James, but I'm not sure how accurate the details are for him!
Any assistance here. It would be much appreciated!! I'm having no luck just now. 
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hume24
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Hi Carole,
Thanks for your reply.
Yes, I understand Stuart was her maiden name. I actually meant that she was just listed as that, rather than Taylor MS Stuart, implying they were not married.
I have looked at that marriage (and birth of a son, James), but that James was a shoemaker so unlikely to be the same couple.
Thanks again,
hume24 
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MonicaLesl
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Sympathies Humes, not an easy one
Who did James Taylor marry in 1860?
There are a number of possibles entries for him in 1851, including the one with grandparents Robert (a maltser) and Ann in Glenbarron, Marnoch, all showing as born in Inveravon. But making any link back to 1841 is difficult.
I agree with you, you are probably dealing with an illegitimate birth and Helen will likely be showing up under another surname if she went on to marry after the birth of James.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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hume24
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Hi Monica,
He married Mary Simpson in Fordyce. Her parents were Alexander Simpson and Margaret Smith. Their children include a James and a Helen, so that seems to confirm the names.
I found an 1851 entry for Mill of Cranna, Marnoch. James Taylor, aged 14, b. Inveravon. The job seems to match up with him in his later years but I'm really not sure.
Thanks again,
hume24
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MonicaLesl
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The 1841 census will be key. Unless you can find him with some form of family, it will be pretty impossible to connect him back at least to Helen's family - assuming James Taylor was up and away from the scene by then.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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Hume
Have you seen this entry in 1841:
Christia Stewart 45, b. Scotland
Hellen Stewart 20
John Stewart 20, agr. lab
James Stewart 15
Jane Stewart 12
James Stewart 1
Address: Ramsburn, Rothiemay
Not much more that jumps out on the 1841 entries unfortunately
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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hume24
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Hi Monica,
I hadn't seen that entry! Interesting indeed. I hadn't thought of looking for a James Stewart, rather than Taylor. John and Jane would later be used for James' children's names, so it could be a possible.
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MonicaLesl
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Quite often with illegitimate children, they went by their mother's name in the early years and then adopted father's name in later years. I am not seeing anything whatsoever that would fit for father James Taylor in 1841 in Banff. However, it could well be that given his occupation, he could have been anywhere in the country by 1841. However, I searched by occupation, any location and still nothing obvious.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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hume24
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Oh! I was just searching there on FreeCen (Ancestry sub has ran out), and found this. 
Address: Ship Big Xxx (?), Greenock, Renfrewshire
Jas Taylor, m, 25, custom house officer, Scotland
Is this the same as an excise officer, I wonder?
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MonicaLesl
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The abbreviations on first names can chat you (me!) out. That looks a good entry Hume - customs/excise, the same thing.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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I've gone back to the 1851 and searched for a combination of Jas/James, Taylor, customs, excise, and officer and nothing showing anywhere at present.
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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hume24
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Thanks again, Monica, for checking. I think it's possible James left the country or perhaps he is deceased by then. What a young age if so. I'm going to try and find possible marriages for Helen, which will, hopefully, give me names of her parents. And possibly a link to James junior in 1841!
Thank you again,
hume24
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hume24
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Hume Have you seen this entry in 1841: Christia Stewart 45, b. Scotland Hellen Stewart 20 John Stewart 20, agr. lab James Stewart 15 Jane Stewart 12 James Stewart 1 Address: Ramsburn, Rothiemay Not much more that jumps out on the 1841 entries unfortunately Monica
I think I've found this family in 1851. John is showing as head of the household, with Hellen as his wife. In the next household, Christina is living with another daughter (Margaret). Not having much luck on the marriage search either, I'm wondering if Helen left the county?
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MonicaLesl
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That's a pity Hume. This is one of the worst periods to research in for a situation like this. Helen could have married before 1841 I suppose and James could also be showing under a different surname for that year. The 1841 census as you know is the most rigid census year to search on. Even with Ancestry, you can only search for one person at a time unlike in later years.
I'll keep looking...
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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