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lynne j
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trying to trace back to st austell cornwall
« on: Saturday 15 March 08 15:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi ,I am wondering If someone can help me please, I am really having problems trying to trace back to st austell cornwall  my great grandma annie rundle maiden name could be greenslade or honey she was born there In 1858 ,she died In durham In 1910 aged 52 she was married to a john harry rundle born 1865 liskeard , I have them living In durham 1901 and 1891
on there childrens birth certificates
william john rundle born durham 1890 father john harry rundle mam ann  rundle formerly greenslade mother reg the birth 
beatrice maud and lily rundle father john harry rundle mother annie rundle formerly honey the father reg the birth they were all born same address in durham,over a year of searching I still cannot find a marriage for john and annie  Cry Cry Cry
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Re: trying to trace back to st austell cornwall
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 March 08 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lynn

Not sure if this is your Annie and Family  Undecided

In 1861

St Dennis,
Trelevour
William Greenslade head 36 China stone lab b st Stephen
Christiann wife 30 b St Dennis
Sam Powell son 10 b St Dennis
Ann dau 7 b St Stephen
Karah dau 4 b St Dennis
Grace dau 2 b St Dennis

St Dennis reg district is  St Austell

I will look further .... wonder where the Honey name fits in ...

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 March 08 15:56 GMT (UK) »
here is the marriage of Ann Greenslade's parents ..


William Greenslade  Sept q 1850 St Austell =  Christiana Pedlar

I cannot see an Annie Honey b c 1858 in St Austell ...

deb

added I see in 1891 see does say she was born in St Stephen  Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 March 08 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi deb ,In 1901 census in brandon it says born 1861 st stephans then in 1891 it says 1862 st austell but on her death certificate in 1910 it says age 52,so everything Is confusing without the marriage certificate im stuck
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 March 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lynnj

Still looking for the marriage ...

I was happy that she said St Stephen in 1891 as the Ann Greenslade  I had found in 1861 was also born St Stephen , reg distict , St Austell.

wil kee p searching

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 March 08 16:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Deb,In the 1861 you found for annie greenslade she was age 7 that means she would have been born 1854 do you think she could have told fibs about her age census and death certificates dont seem to match up
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 March 08 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lynnj

I am not sure ... we seem to have a lot of dates for her ..

1861= b c 1854
1871= b 1852
1881= b 1854
1891= b 1861
1901 =b 1862
death cert = b c 1858
who registered her death ? they may not have known her real age

This also depends on whether we have the correct Ann Greenslade ... she does appear to be with her family up until 1881.

i still cannot find an Ann Honey nor the marriage ...

Another thought ... Annie registered the birth of William John , with maiden name Greenslade.
John Harry registered the births of Beatrice and Lily with his wife's maiden name as Honey ....

do you think they could be two different wives ... maybe Annie Greenslade died and he remarried Annie Honey ...

just thinking out loud ... I love a good puzzle  Grin

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 March 08 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi deb, honestly tracing my rundle side has given me one big head ache, on the death certificate It was her husband john harry rundle reg It ,another puzzle when we cleared my mams house we found photos of my grandad william john rundle and wrote on the back of one of them was lily and annie rundle williams sisters  but Im yet to find an annie rundle I have been up to durham records office and there Is no annie I even bought the cd of brandon bmd ,do you think I should give up ,also I cannot find a marriage to annie honey or annie greenslade have bought two marriage certificates for john rundle  up till now one in liskeard and one in durham,I also bought his marriage certificate to emma soulsby in 1911 after annie died wittnesses were lily rundle and beatrice maud rundle
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 March 08 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Lynn

DON'T give up !!!! we will get it sorted somehow ... Grin

So William John Rundle supposedly had a sister called Annie ...  that adds to the mystery as he was with sisters Beatrice and Lily in 1901 ..ummm will have a look around

hang in there !

Do you have John Harry through the censuses ?

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 March 08 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Deb yes thanks with buying his 2nd marriage certificate to emma soulsby in durham I could at least follow him down his father was john rundle an engine driver and he never changed his age thankfully ,I forgot to mention letitia rundle john harrys cousin from cornwall moved up to durham also ,I found her marriage to alfred gibbon in durham 1890 he was a merchant seaman and they were living in brandon next to john harry found that marriage no bother
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 March 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

I thought I would look to see if Annie Greenslade's dad could shed sone light on the Honey name ...

i found his christening on IGI

William Greenslade
13 Mar 1825
St Stephens in Brannel
parents John greenslade and Ann
can't find a marriage for them ..I was hoping that the mum's maiden name may have been Honey ....arrghhhh

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 15 March 08 19:37 GMT (UK) »
arrgghhhh Lynn the marriage is eluding me  Roll Eyes

Does anyone remember any aunties or uncles on the Greenslade/Honey side of the family ?

deb

added .... who were the witnesses to Letitia's marriage?
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 15 March 08 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi again ,letitias wittnesses ,e catchpole
isaac mcclung
I bet this is really getting to you over a year for me
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 March 08 20:01 GMT (UK) »
 Grin

they are driving me a little bonkers ...

i noticed when looking at John harry's family that he had a sister called Agnes...I did note an Agnes Ann Rundle born in Durham circa 1900's . I wonder if she could be the Annie Rundle williams , William John's sister ...?

will look further

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 March 08 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi deb ,sorry when I recieved the baptisms for brandon, john and annie had no more children before she died ,but lily rundle  there 3rd child born 1895 durham I can not find anything about her only her birth no marriage no death nothing at all apart from the photo which says williams sisters lily and annie ,so I think beatrice may have called herself annie after her mam died ,I could be way out only guessing what a family ,wished I had asked my grandad william rundle more about his family
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