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Help on Hook or Wareham?
« on: Sunday 16 March 08 17:02 GMT (UK) »

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George Wareham (chr 9th Jan 1846) married Mary Ann Hook   in Farnham on 11 March 1874.  At the time of that marriage, Mary Ann Hook already had a child Ellen, whose birth certificate showed no father  (b 19/10/1869 Farnham ). Her father may have been George Wareham but the baptismal records of Farnham dated 18/09/1870 declare the father to be a George Hook.

So, was George given his mother‘s maiden name because the couple had yet to marry? I am hoping that the 1871 Farnham census shows baby Ellen with her mother and George.  But was he George Hook or George Wareham.  Can anyone find that entry for me?

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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 March 08 17:17 GMT (UK) »

1871 Census - RG10/821/F105/p39
Farnham Surrey

George Wareham head 24 Labourer (Agric'l) b Hants Basingstoke
Mary A wife 21 dressmaker b Midsx Staines
Ellen dau 1 b Surrey Farnham

Looks like a bit of poetic licence to me...I'd say George Wareham was Ellens father
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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 March 08 21:37 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that.
I'm in agreememnt, its just what I thought.

You would have George Wareham on the 1861 census as well would you, for it would help some other research to know if he was still in Basingstoke Hampshire or had already relocated to Farnham in Surrey.

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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 March 08 21:38 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that.
I'm in agreememnt, its just what I thought.

You wouldnt have George Wareham on the 1861 census as well would you, for it would help some other research to know if he was still in Basingstoke Hampshire or had already relocated to Farnham in Surrey.

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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:04 GMT (UK) »


Huh I've had a look in 1861, do you have parents/fathers name, might make it easier to spot him................
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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 March 08 08:52 GMT (UK) »

Love to give you the father's name but it is unknown.
George Wareham was one of the illegitimate children of Harriet Wareham nee Trigg.  Harriet's husband died a decade before George's birth and then she died in Basing Workhouse in 1860. 

She would have left behind the following half sisters that I would also like to trace for they too are missing. Up until now I thought they may have been sent to Australia by the parish workhouse (albeit reluctantly) as possible brides to stop former convict labour returning.

They are as follows. .........
Dinah Wareham   chr. 13th June 1830 Old Basing
1841 census, Jackmans Lane, Basing    
1851 census Basing Workhouse

Elizabeth Wareham   chr. 7th April 1833 Old Basing
1841 census, Jackmans Lane, Basing   
1851 census Basing Workhouse

Compulsory Australian brides?

Perhaps George and  his half sisters were together in 1861?
I would presume the parish workhouse to be the place to look first.

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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 16:38 GMT (UK) »

There is a George Werman age 14 in the 1861 census living West Street, Factory Road, Farnham with -

George Stingo 36 Head Labourer born Crondall, Hampshire
Elizabeth Stingo 31 Wife born Crondall
George Stingo 10 son born Crondall
William Stingo 33 Lodger born Crondall
Elizabeth Stingo 25 Lodger born Farnham
George Werman 14 Lodger born Farnham

Could he be your George?
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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 18:50 GMT (UK) »

It's highly possible that was my George,  but it looks as though the enumerator was somewhat enebriated at the time of the census.  Not only was George's name incorrect, I could only find one Stingo in earlier and later records.

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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 19:22 GMT (UK) »

I don't think it was the enumerator who was the one enebriated (and I wasn't either) but it was how I found it  transcribed for Ancestry.  To be fair the original is difficult to read and I don't know what it says either!
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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 20:00 GMT (UK) »

Thanks again Anne
An interesting new development is that I have now found the host family under the name of Slingo. 
I have written to a descendent of theirs in Australia, and am hoping their response will help explain how my George Wareham also ended up in Austrailia.

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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 20:08 GMT (UK) »

So Stingo wasn't that far out.  You found some descendents pretty quick - I wish I could find mine that fast.
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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »

Fortunately there weren't many Slingos on the Internet, and one of those listed gave me the same names and dates from 1861 as you did. 


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Re: Help on Hook or Wareham?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 22:01 GMT (UK) »

Oh well done Anne!...I wasn't ignoring you Roy, I just couldn't see anything helpful and didn't want to post a negative reply.
Good luck with the Slingos.

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