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Gedcom Census Version 6
« on: Sunday 16 March 08 22:20 GMT (UK) »

Not really a help topic.

But for all "Family Historian" Software users Gedcom census version 6 is now available from the FHUG website
http://www.fhug.org.uk/cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=downloads&cat=GedCom
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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 March 08 07:42 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Falkryn.

I will follow the link to one of my favourite bits of software Cheesy

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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 March 08 15:29 GMT (UK) »

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As of 2007, five years after the publication of the beta version of GEDCOM 6.0, no genealogical software suppplier supports it, despite the inherent advantages of an extensible and portable language like XML and its multi-lingual Unicode support. The few exceptions GedXML are listed in reference.

Is there any practical advantage in using GEDCOM 6.0 if no other software manufacturer supports it?  If you do export a gedcom file in that format will any other family tree program be able to interpret it?

Currently it seems to be of little use to anyone.
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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 March 08 15:32 GMT (UK) »

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I'm a bit confused as the software that Falkryn is talking about is version 6 of the census attaching software (technical term Grin) that goes with FH3.

It allows you to record all census returns against each family member on your family tree and doesn't particularly need to recognised by any other software.

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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 March 08 15:46 GMT (UK) »

It seems to be limited to Family Historian users.

In terms of it being a GEDCOM file, the name implies that all family tree programs can understand it which they probably cannot do at this stage.
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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 March 08 15:53 GMT (UK) »

It's a bit of a misleading name I guess.

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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 March 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »

It seems to be limited to Family Historian users.

In terms of it being a GEDCOM file, the name implies that all family tree programs can understand it which they probably cannot do at this stage.

Just to clarify, this is not Gedcom version 6 but Gedcom Census v 6 which is an add on utility for users of the "Family Historian" software program.

This program uses a straight gedcom file and provides the user with a set of screens to allow that person to insert in a clear and logical manner census information upon individuals in their programs database. This program, GEDCOM CENSUS, is intended primarily for users of "Family Historian" as it was designed as a companion to that program but I have no doubt that some enterprising and quick witted soul may find another use for it.
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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 14:11 BST (UK) »

Has anyone any practical experience of using the census add-on?

I like the look of it and would like to download it to use in conjunction with my Family Historian but I already have a few thousand census entries on my file (entered as notes to events).  How exactly does it interact with FH and would I have to re-enter all of the census entries?

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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 14:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Kate

I use it all the time and find it very useful. 

Yes you do have to enter every census record you have and I am slowly going through each surname.  But in the end if you click on one of your ancestors and open him up if you click on the tab called Events then every census record is entered there that you have entered in Gedcom Census and so you can keep track of where he was.

I also have found it very useful for finding these family relatives that pop up on census records that I don't notice when downloading them.  Grin

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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 18:17 BST (UK) »

Gedcom census is I believe an invaluable tool for users of FH . It makes census entry so much easier and logs the information in all of the "correct" places.

Technically you don't have to re - enter all previously input information although ultimately it might lead to a neater way of working.
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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 18:20 BST (UK) »

Maybe I should have said that I previously had never entered any census information on to my family tree software  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes, the previous package I used had no means of doing so, another good reason to have FH, it helps to combine all information you have about an ancestor in a nice tidy and easy to read way.

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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 18:41 BST (UK) »

In the GEDCOM system additional field types can be created for any specific purpose and FH3 allows/encourages you to exploit this.

I used to just list my census details in the notes field of each individual in FH, using copy and paste to reduce the workload on repeated information, but this very clever census utility adds a "census event" field to each record (and does it as you go, so you enter  the reference and address etc. then as you add each person, it creates the appropriate field in each record without having to key in the basic details over and over again).

Also, if you use some of the other features of FH such as setting flags on records to mark the existence of certain events, it can be used to automatically set your census flags.  These, in turn can be used to link symbols to the diagram boxes for each individual so, on my diagrams, for instance, I can see who has which census events listed.

Not only that, but the combination of FH3 and the census utility means that, if you have an image of the census page, then it can be linked, once only, to the source record for that page which is, in turn, linked to each record that cites it (so doesn't have to have the image separately included in each record for it to be available).

I hope I have explained this without getting too techie, but I'm sure that you can tell that I'm very enthusiastic about this tool, even though I've only been using it for a few weeks now.
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Re: Gedcom Census Version 6
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 June 08 06:13 BST (UK) »

Thank you all for your replies, they are very helpful. 

I think we were working in the same way Dudley with the inputting of census information and the flags.  The ability to flag is great I've got them for the censuses, BMD certs, parish records, killed in action etc and find them invaluable for a quick look at a tree to see what info is missing.

As to the census facility - I'm going to give it a go.  I particularly like the thought of being able to link just one census scan to everyone's record.

Thanks everyone
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