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Lookup - Murly death notice COMPLETED
« on: Monday 17 March 08 01:29 GMT (UK) »

Afternoon,

From the Waikumete Cemetery I have found

a/ Annie Isabel Murly died 3 September 1934 Auckland burial 5 September 1934 - spinster
and
b/ Herbert Ernest Murly died 21 August 1936 Auckland cremation 24 August 1936 - optician

I am hoping that someone can do a death notice search for me in the Auckland newspapers.
I am trying to find if these two are brother and sister plus other family in New Zealand.

Please forgive me if this is impossible and is to much of a big jobbie.

Thanks heaps Christine M Clayton
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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 March 08 02:39 GMT (UK) »

 Cheesy

Nothing is impossible and definitely not a biggie, just a question of when someone is going into the city !
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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 March 08 02:51 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Mk2 Zephyr,

don't you feel like a drive into the city ...  Cool,

... it's years since I've been to the big smoke, didn't like all those people, cars and traffic lights!!!

Thanks Christine
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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 March 08 08:41 GMT (UK) »

I'm going to the Research Centre at Ak Library on Saturday - so can have a look for your death notices then.  Would you like me to have a look for cemetery transcriptions too if I have time?

Cheers
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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 March 08 09:04 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Fiona,

whatever you can fit in would be great and very much appreciated.

Thanks heaps Christine
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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 21:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Fiona,  just a few details that I have found.

Regarding Herbert Ernest Murly - I am looking for a Herbert Edward Murly, born 1865 Clifton Gloucestershire England to parents John Murly and Sarah Jane (nee Thomas) Murly, a friend has found a H.E.E. Murly on the "Marmora" passenger list arriving Auckland 1909.  So he could be Herbert (Ernest Edward) Murly - fingers crossed.

Annie Isabel Murly born 1864 Clifton Gloucestershire England and Herbert Murly had another brother Robert John Murly who married Gertrude Evelyn Buchanan, who could be living in either Christchurch or Greymouth New Zealand at the time of their deaths.  Other siblings are Gilbert E Murly, Blanche Murly, Hilda Murly, and Cecil Murly who could be back in England. 

These people are all cousins to my great grandfather James Henry Clayton who I have been looking for in England for years.  The last place I expected to find relations for him, was here in New Zealand.

Thanks heaps Christine.


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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 March 08 08:45 GMT (UK) »

Christine

Found Herbert and Annie in the NZ Herald.

Murly - At Auckland Hospital, Annie Isobel Murly of Highbury, Birkenhead, aged 70. [details of funeral followed & internment at Waikumete]

Murly - On August 21 at Auckland, Herbert E Murly, dearly loved youngest son of the late John Murly of Bristol and brother of R.J. Murly, Christchurch.  Private internment.

Unfortunately I missed your last post and only wrote the initials from the death notice (was running out of time on the viewer) and can't remember whether it said Edward or Ernest.  I'll have another look nest time I'm there. 

But at least it proves that Robert was in Christchurch at the time?

Not sure whether you have this but found Robert's burial record on the Chch cemeteries database (nothing for his wife Gertrude)

Surname: Murly
First name(s): Robert John
Date of death: Sunday, 4 April 1937
Cemetery:  Bromley Cemetery
Date of burial: Monday, 5 April 1937
Block number:  9
Plot number:  394
Age:  76 years
Address:  117 Richmond Tce, ChCh
Occupation:  Accountant
Place of birth:  Rommania 
Years in New Zealand:  40

Birthplace - Romannia?Huh

I'm back at the library either next Saturday or the one after so let me know if there's anything else I can help with.

Cheers
Fiona
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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 March 08 09:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi Fiona,

Thanks for all your help,  they are certainly the people that I am looking for.

Rommania is Romania Turkey their father John Murly was a merchant (love to know what kind of merchant), the first four children were born either in Turkey or Germany.

Once again thanks heaps Christine
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Re: Lookup - John Murly death notice bef 1881
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 May 08 17:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Christine

If John was born in the Cokers and his father Roger was a canvas manufacturer - that's sail canvas : Coker Canvas was the whitest!

If he lived in Bristol and London and in Galati/Galatz Moldavia, latterly Romania and some of his children were born in Galatz (1849, 1856, 1858 and 1860 (Ismail is just down the Danube from Galatz) and some in Clifton, Bristol (1861 Census finds them there and births registered there in 1862, 1864 and 1865) and his wife and family moved later to London (1871 Lambeth) (1881) where she came from originally and is listed there as a wodow...  is it possible he went to Oz for the Gold Rush?

All his homes and places of his chldrens births were shipping places in a big way.

I cant crack his business/home address in London at his marriage 1845"16 Broad Street Buildings" Any ideas?

East Coker Church records are not on the IGI!

Any thoughts?

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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 07:56 BST (UK) »

Hi Colin

Your message is full of surprises, nearly brings me full circle.

My interest with the Murly family started with trying to find my greatgrandfather James Henry Clayton and his parents a James Clayton and Katherine Elizabeth Thomas.  I have found my greatgrandfathers baptism record 1854 in Mortlake with a side note of his birth being 26th Sep 1851, his full name being James Henry Clayton Thomas with no father mentioned, I have never been able to find him in a census or his correct place of birth. 

From family stories which can be untrue, James was an appentice sail maker, there was some sort of death and not wanting James to get/take the blame his mother Katherine paid out his appenticeship and sent him away, James arrived in New Zealand approx early 1870's.  I have also just received a copy of a will for Emma (Hester) Clayton, which notes from a daughter that her father James Henry Clayton husband of Emma Clayton was born and educated in Bristol.

Now if Sarah (Thomas) Murly's father in law was a canvas manufacturer/sail canvas, could my James have been living with the Murly family,  and then arrived in New Zealand with his Murly cousins. 

Just a few ideas that I have had since reading your post, it is also possible that they all could have gone to Australia first, has I have not found any passenger lists as yet.

Thanks heaps Christine




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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 09:16 BST (UK) »

Christine

Not sure if you have Blanche Murly in 1861. She is in the household of Joseph STANCOMB, Hurn House, at East Coker in Somerset. Listed as a niece, aged 6, Scholar, born Galatz, Moldavia, British Subject. RG9/1640/18/2

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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 May 08 09:30 BST (UK) »

Hi Ian

It seems that (dad) John Murly and (mum) Sarah Jane (Thomas) Murly are out of the country in Ismail Turkey when the 1861 census was taken.

Gilbert E Murly - at his auntie Marie (Murly) Woolston
Blanche Murly - at her auntie Martha (Murly) Stancomb
Hilda Murly - at my 2nd great grandmothers Katherine Thomas (sister to Sarah Jane Murly)

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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 03:11 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Is there a kind soul who has a membership for Australia on ancestry. 

Are just wanting details regarding the "Miss Murly" and "PJ Murly"
on the new - NSW Free Settlers database 1826- 1922.

Thanks heaps Christine.
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Re: Lookup - Murly death notice
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 04:35 BST (UK) »

PJ Murly arrived on the Arcadian 5 Oct 1900 from London, aged 20

Miss Murly arrived in Sydney on the Gabo 28 Feb 1886 from Melbourne

No other info

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 04:41 BST (UK) »



Thanks Ian for your quick reply.

Regards Christine
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