yogibear
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help needed.
eliza louisa allard married charles bloomfield 1886 bosmere
but on birth certs for children has eliza mulley, we cannot find a connection or birth for eliza louisa allard. any help appreicated
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yogibear
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i have nothing apart from when she married charles bloomfield.
the problem occured when she married him as allard, but the kids of charles and eliza louisa has mulley.
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yogibear
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what do you mean?
i found the marriage on ancestry and all the distant family members who are doing the family tree say allard, then one member has mulley on birth cert and then another member said something to a elderly member and shesaid , oh yeh eliza mulley. so any info would be good
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Meliora
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Ah, well, yogibear,
This is a classic case of really needing a copy of the marriage certificate from the Office of National Statistics.
The index of marriage entries of the ONS certainly show that a marriage occured between a Charles Bloomfield & an Eliza Louisa Allard Sept. ¼ 1886 Bosmere 4a 1001 & would be found on Ancestry freeBMDs or complete BMDs. But I think that somewhere along the line an error in transciption could have taken place, mixing up an Eliza Louisa Allard with an Eliza Mulley.
I first found evidence via the census that there is a family with an Eliza Allard b c 1866 with parents James & Ellen in the 1871 census Stow Upland. I then looked at this from the angle of Charles Broomfield, to see where he was born together with his wife Eliza. The 1891 census showed the following info, especially interesting is who was living next door to Charles & Eliza, & they were all quite specific they were born Elmswell where as the Eliza Allard bc 1866 in the Stow Upland census was born Stow Upland.
1891 census
RG12/1454 folio 25 page 1
5, Hawk End, Elmswell Stow
Charles Bloomfield head age 29 Shepherd b suffolk Norton
Eliza wie age 27 Washerwoman b Suffolk Elmswell
Ellen L. day age 5 b ditto
Alice M. dau age 3 b ditto
Kate E. dau age 1 b ditto
6, Hawk End, Elmswell Stow
Ellen Mulley wid age 49 Charwoman b Suffolk Elmswell
Alice L. day age 15 Gen Serv b ditto
Anna day age 10 b ditto
1901 census
RG13/1759 folio 38 page 26
Charles Bloomfield head age 38 Shepherd b Suffolk Norton
Eliza wife age 36 b Suffolk Elmswell
Kate dau age 11 b ditto
Agnes dau age 9 b ditto
James son age 7 b ditto
Charles son age 5 b ditto
1881 census
RG11/1847 folio 32 page 7
Station Rd., Elmswell
head of house
Robert Buckle Ag Lab
Eliza Mulley age 16 Serv. laundress b Elmswell
1881 census
RG11/1847 folio 29 page 1
Hawk end, Elmswell
James Mulley head age 40 Bricklayer b Elmswell
Ellen wife age 40 b ditto
Edith Armstrong um.dau age 21 Baker's Assist. b ditto
Walter H. Mulley son age 18 farm lab b ditto
Amelia E. dau age 13 b ditto
Emma dau age 10 b ditto
Alice L. dau age 5 b ditto
Infant dau age 2 days b ditto
George Armstrong grson. age 2 b ditto
Birth
Eliza Mulley
Sept. ¼ 1865 Stow 4a 474
Birth
Eliza Allard
Sept. ¼ 1863 Plomesgate 4a 607
Death
James John Mulley age 41
Dec ¼ 1882 Stow 4a 382
I think the best way to find out about this marriage is to contact the ONS, stating the reasons why you have doubts about who is the correct wife & ask for a check of the original marrage entry, you have the district, vol no 4a & page no 1001 as well as the two names. You will need to quote the vol no & page no for them to identify the entry.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
This website will give you an email address where you must quote GQ in the subject slot to prevent getting an automated reply. There is also a phone no to contact.
You could also ask the local Registry Office for a check, they will not need the vol & page no but the quarter of the year & year, with the names.
Looking at the census info etc. I think the census info I found for the Eliza Allard should be put on oneside until you have sorted out the marriage entry..
Hope this all makes sense,
Meliora
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yogibear
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thanks. have ordered cert.
cannot find the mulleys in 1871 though, can you?
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i have just got the marriage cert for charles bloomfield and eliza louisa allard.
and i dont know where to go now. the charles is a different charles for starters as the agesdont add up.and the father doesnt.
also eliza louisa allard i cannot read her fathers name.
they are both widowed when they married in 1886. he was 41 and her 22. his dad was john a bricklayer and elizas dad i cannot make out but he was a sawyer.
help please as i cannot find another charles bloomfield marrying a eliza mulley.
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yogibear
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right found out that it is eliza louisa willby. she married as eliza wilby in 1883 a edward allard in bosmere. he died in 1884.
still need help finding a marriage of our charles bloomfield marry a eliza mulley
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yogibear
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THE 1871 CENSUS IS CORRECT.
HOW CAN I FIND THE MARRIAGE BETWEEN HARLES AND THIS ELIZA MULLEY. IT DEFINATLEY SAYS ON THE KIDS NBIRTH CERTS THAT WAS HER MADIAN NAME.
ANY IDEAS PLEASE
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william james
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Hi yogibear.
Do you know that the Mulley family have there own web site
www.genforum.genealogy.com/mulley
It is for the Mulley name world wide they might be able to help you.
Hope this helps
William James.
PS
Mod's if the putting of the web site address breaks copyright i am sorry please strike it off.
William James
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Rice, Sadler, Cocksedge, Mulley,from Suffolk. Minter, Smith, Holding, Warcus, from London.Courtney, Smith, from Dorset. Pearl, from Suffolk/ Hampshire.
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yogibear
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hi thanks i posted on it a few days ago but have had no response. peoplewho have a eliza mulley in their tree say she died aged 9 in 1874.
one lady even lists other people in their tree which we know are related, as in elizas death record in the paper, it says their names, but they are convinced she died as i say age 9. i dont know where to go now to prove its her.any ideas
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