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SMITH marriage lookup request
« on: Monday 17 March 08 11:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Is there a marriage between a John Smith born 1811 Fatfield, county Durham... and a Susan (Susanna) 'Unknown' born 1814 Fatfield, County Durham... around 1834 in the Lumley area of Durham?  They had a Daughter Margaret Smith born 1834 in Nowel Pit? County Durham.

I'm not not sure where Nowel Pit is.. or if i'm miss reading it from the census..

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 March 08 11:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ed,

Which census gave that birthplace for Margaret?

In 1841 they're in Lumley Thicks, Chester-le-Street

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 March 08 11:57 GMT (UK) »

hi ed

there is a submitted entry on IGI for margaret smith baptized
19th october 1834 chester le street durham , parents
john & susanna smith
not too sure how accurate that is

this map shows the places -

http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?shop_id=290&mapAction=gaz&gazName=pc&gazString=NE38+9BT

chester le street and greater lumley are close , with a fatfield to
the north

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 March 08 12:01 GMT (UK) »

hi barbara

seen that on 1841 as well
maybe kids will match up on the 1851

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 March 08 12:04 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

regards the census... in 1851 she is in lumley with her family, and birth place down as Chester-le-street... but in 1871 after margaret's marriage to william cummings... her birth place is Nowel Pit, Durham.

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 March 08 12:07 GMT (UK) »

IGI also shows baptisms (also member-submitted) for Ann 1837 and Mary Ellen 1844
but unfortunately not the marriage

1841 HO107/311/2 fol.38 p.26
Lumley Thicks, Great Lumley
SMITH
John  30  Pitman
Susan 27
Margaret 7
Ann 5
Elizabeth 2
all born in Durham county

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 March 08 12:09 GMT (UK) »

1881 states Pody Pit!  1871 Definitely Nowel but can't see either pit on the mining site

I think though that you can safely assume she was born in and around Lumley, Chester-le- Street, but no baptism or marriage showing up on durhamrecordsonline yet, still looking

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 March 08 14:10 GMT (UK) »

If you go to http://gis.durham.gov.uk/website/interMAP/viewer.htm and enter the post code DH3 4HF in the search box it will centre the map on Lumley Thicks, you can then look at the historic maps.

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Re: SMITH marriage lookup request
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 March 08 17:41 GMT (UK) »

Baptisms for Chester le Street St. Mary and St. Cuthbert from BT:

Margaret Smith bapt 19 Oct 1834 d/o John and Susannah, Pitman, Harraton
Ann Smith bapt New Year's Day 1837 d/o John and Susan, Pitman, abode Harraton
Elizabeth Smith bapt 19 May 1839 d/o John and Susan (from index)

No marriage of a John and Susanna that fits their age in Co. Durham but there is one at Newcastle All Saints for Susanna Avery and John Smith 3 June 1833
My great grandparents X3 lived in Co. Durham and for what ever reason decided to marry at All Saints in Newcastle.

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