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leonahoward
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Owens Dumbarton 1850s /1860s
« on: Monday 17 March 08 16:48 GMT (UK) »
From his marriage and death certificates I know that my gt.grandfather Thomas Owens was born in Dumbarton some time in the 1850s and that his father's name was William.  William was a blacksmith.  Thomas ended up being a skipper in Hull.  If anyone has any information that could possible tie in, please let me know.  This is the big brick wall in my research.
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Re: Owens Dumbarton 1850s /1860s
« Reply #1 on: Monday 17 March 08 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

There's no sign of your Thomas' birth on the IGI, through FamilySearch. That makes me think he was born before 1855, the start of official registration in the country. The only other Owens birth (with father William) is this one:

Patrick Owens, born 15th January 1857 Old Kilpatrick - parents William Owens and Martha Hare

Interestingly the same entry also appears in the registers of Barony, Glasgow under the name "Owns". A later birth shows for the couple ... but in Ireland!

Mary Owens, born 12th May 1866 Fermanagh, Ireland - parents William Owens and Martha Haire

Hopefully someone can check the 1861 census for you and confirm/deny whether these are your ancestors! Smiley

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Re: Owens Dumbarton 1850s /1860s
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 March 08 23:36 GMT (UK) »

Hi, I've found another Owen birth which might be your Thomas.

THOMAS EVAN OWEN  b 1st May 1855 Old Monkland  Lanark

Father - William Owen
Mother - Ann Henson

I couldn't find a marriage for this couple but I did see one for a William and an ANN NELSON  27th Feb 1846 Shotts Lanark, the same couple are listed as having another 5 children in Glasgow between 1856 and 1864.

If you check the IGIs perhaps the children's names will strike a cord.
      Hope this Helps

          Val
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Re: Owens Dumbarton 1850s /1860s
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

Thomas Owens shows on the English 1881 Census as age 30 so birth year c. 1851.

No signs of a William Owen(s) in the 1851/61 with occupation of blacksmith though. There is a 16 yrs old William Owens in Dumbartonshire in 1851, one would think too young to have fathered Thomas. There is also no Thomas Owens showing in 1851/61 that connect with a Dumbartonshire birth place  Undecided

Leona, there is the possibility that Thomas's birth was illegitimate and in the early censuses he could show under his mother's surname. Illegitimate children would often take the surname of their father if known to them in later years.  There are a number of Thomases in Dunbartonshire born c.1847-51 who show as grandsons/lodgers/boarders etc. which could be him under a different surname.

I assume he married in England, he shows as married in 1881. Without a mother's name from his MC, it makes the job much harder. Do you have the names of all his children and names of wife's parents to see whether there might be some clues there as to mother's name?

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Monica

PS: Welcome to RootsChat  Smiley
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