A Tappy
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Hi, new to this site so not sure if I've done this correctly.
Can anyone help with this query?
I am trying to find the birth registration of my ggf, Samuel Kirkman born in Bolton in 1855 ( his dob appears to be correct as his age is the same all though the censuses) There are 4 Samuel Kirkmans recorded between 1852 and 1857 I have the certificates for all 4 and they don't appear to be him as the fathers name is incorrect (stated as Robert on his marriage cert) He also doesn't appear to have lived with his family he is listed as a boarder/lodger from the 1861 census until he marries in 1875.
Any ideas?
Al
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Hi Andrea
Thanks for that. I had thought that illegitimacy was possible but had thought he wouldn't legally be able to put a false name on his marriage certificate. Will look further into this as there appears to have been a lot of that going on in my family judging by the amount of 'hastily arranged' marriages!
Thanks
Al
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hi al
had a look through what you have 
the marriage(1875) - if you are sure about this then thats your starting point
is fathers name right/ is age right / birth place ?
you have obviously put all the info. together and although certain things
match overall it means no proof at all 
1861 census
samuel kirkman age 11 born great bolton lancashire
parents robert & betty kirkman
may be not your man but is it any further from what you have already
sorry not much help but may be in the long run
ev
ps forgot my manners 
welcome to rootschat
if there is an answer you'll find it here
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hi al
was samuel kirkman's wife catherine wilson ?
is her father's name on the certificate ?
is there any occupation for samuel , his father, or cathrine's father ?
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Hi
Stan, thanks for that, I had assumed everything would be as 'legit' as today.
Ev, I have looked at that particular samuel, but dismissed him because the age was not the same and the fact that I can't find him on following censuses. My samuel has his age as 20 on his marriage cert in 1875, Fathers name, Robert, Occ. painter. Wifes name Catherine Wilson, Father Robert Occ. collier. He is on the censuses as being born in Bolton. I have no idea if his details are correct as I only have what is on the marriage cert, I do know Catherines are correct.
Thanks Al
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hi al
1881 census
great bolton
robert kirkman age 66 house painter b. woolwich kent
frances kirkman 63 wife dressmaker born bolton
frances kirkman 22 daughter cotton frame tenter born bolton
maybe another dead end but you never know
catherine's father's details are correct(coal miner)
ev
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