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John William Rollo
« on: Tuesday 18 March 08 16:42 GMT (UK) »

I am not sure if I have entered this before

John William Rollo b 1865 Middlesex London d Chelsea 1889
Married to Eleanor Prophet
I can only find one son
John Robert Rollo b 1887 London d 1919

Where can I look to find if they had any more family

Also I don't have Eleanor's perants

Glad of some help

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Re: John William Rollo
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 16:55 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Where did you get Eleanors maiden name as Prophet? I can see her son in 1891 with his Rollo grandmother in Berwick.

Theres also this marriage -

Eleanor Ann Rollo June 1890 Berwick Vol 10b Page 700
Groom - Philip James Crumpton

They are on 1891 census RG12/4267 Folio 34 Page 10 (shes listed as age 21)
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Re: John William Rollo
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:07 GMT (UK) »




   I can see a Eleanor Prophet in Berwick in 1881 but age given as 20

   RG11 /5129 F 76 P 21

   Coble Inn

  Johnston Borthwick hd m 76 innkeeper
  Eleanor                    wi m 74
  Isabella Prophet dau m 54 housekeeper
  Eleanor              g/dau 20 milliner
  Agnes                g/dau 17 pupil teacher
  Isabella             g/dau 13 scholar

    all born Berwick

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Re: John William Rollo
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:09 GMT (UK) »

John William ROLLO Married Eleanor PROPHET in Marylebone in Dec 1886. ref 1a page 1192.

Did he die,and that's why she remarries as Rollo?

Carol

PS yes he did  Cheesy

Deaths in Jun 1899   John William  ROLLO age 34  in Chelsea  ref 1a page 254
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:10 GMT (UK) »



  Eleanor & John William on same page  Marylebone 1886 q4

 2 more John William Rollo marriages in Marylebone both in 1894

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Re: John William Rollo
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:29 GMT (UK) »

If John William dies in Jun 1899, then the marriage of an Eleanor Rollo to Philip Crumpton in 1890 cant be the same lass.

Surely Our Eleanor should be around, hopefully with husband John W in 1891. And if the Prophet that Tazze found is her, she should be 30 ish
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Re: John William Rollo
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:41 GMT (UK) »

14 yr old John Robert is still with granny in Berwick in 1901

RG13 4844 31 8

So looks like he lived there rather than was just visiting in 1891
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:44 GMT (UK) »

If John William dies in Jun 1899, then the marriage of an Eleanor Rollo to Philip Crumpton in 1890 cant be the same lass.


Blimey you're on the ball tonight Liz  Wink

I'm not, I still have a cold and it's affecting my brain-yeah yeah what brain  Grin

Maybe I should go away and re-read this  Wink

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:52 GMT (UK) »




   The Eleanor A Rollo who marries Berwick looks to be ....

  Eleanor A Rolls in 1871 census dau of Robert & Margaret  original reads ROLLO.

   RG

  Castle gate Berwick

Robert Rollo hd m  34 mason & provision dealer
Margaret      wi m 38
Isabella       dau 10 scholar
Margaret     dau 8    d/o
John            son 6     d/o
  James        son 4      d/o
ELEANOR A  DAU 1                         All born Berwick.

   the one I found is Eleanor Borthwick Prophet reg 1858 q4 Berwick

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    hot toddy Carol    Wink

   
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:56 GMT (UK) »

And I've just found grannie Rollo(transcribed as Rolls) in 1881

RG11/ 5129 Folio: 36 Page: 10

Sure enough 11 year old Eleanor is with her.

So I agree that the marriage of Eleanor Rollo is John William's sister then. Grin

Off to get the dinner,

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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 17:57 GMT (UK) »



  Could it be that Eleanor has died by 1891 as there are dates for marriages of John William Rollo in 1894....again in Marylebone .

 Elizabeth do you have his death cert OR his marriage cert.

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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 18:02 GMT (UK) »

Tazzie

What do you make of those two marriage entries,one is 1025 and the other 4025.

They do each seem to tie up with the right number of girls and yet I'm not sure if it DOES say 1025.It looks more like 4025 to me.

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 18:23 GMT (UK) »

I have the tea to make and thank you both at this moment I too will read all this through again

I know John Robert Rollo William son  lived at Berwick for a time as he married my grandmother's sister Eleanor Turnbull Thompson
John sailed to Australia and she followed him they were married in Australia


John Robert  Rollo  was killed in Egypt in WW1 ( then living in Australia ) aged 34 .I was wanting to find if he had any siblings

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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 20:42 GMT (UK) »

Elizabeth

We are trying to establish where mum and dad were if John jnr was with grandma for the censuses.That should lead us on to finding if he had any siblings.

But we don't seem to have tracked them down yet do we?

We'll probably have another go tomorrow,when we're all fresh and wide awake LOL  Wink

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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 18 March 08 21:02 GMT (UK) »

Here we go Carol Tazzie and Catone

I sent to Australia for my great Aunts marriage and this is where i found John Robert Rollo 's parents
His father was John William Rollo his mother Eleanor Prophet

I then went into Ancestry.co and found the marriage of John William to Eleanor Prophet Dec Quarter 1886 ( got no further with her )Maryleborne London
I also found John Williams death in Ancestry age 34 June 1899

Now the next episode
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