Author
|
Topic: TREASE/TRAIES continued... (Read 3741 times)
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
 Offline
Posts: 9277
|
How interesting and explains why I couldn't find Rillington Place on a modern map!
I vaguely remember hearing the name Christie, must have read about it somewhere.
Kerry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 9277
|
Right certificates have arrived this morning!
Firstly death certificate for James Traies
Registration district St George Hanover Square, sub district Belgrave
24th October 1855
St Georges Hospital
James Traies
Maile
40 years
Tin Plate Worker (Master)
Old stricture of Urethrea Extravasation? of Urine (1 week) Diseased Kidney
Lucy Traies present at the death
2 Bond Street, Chelsea
26th October 1855
These certificates don't get any easier to read do they?? 
I think that must be our James, son of James.
Kerry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 9277
|
Marriage certificate for daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth
12867 at parish Church of St James marland?? Kensington
10 March 1867
John Saunders Hinton 20 Bachelor, Carpenter, 5? Sussex Terrace, Kensington Bank Road, North ?? father - James Hington unreadable rank that looks like Farmer with a 6 in the middle??
Annie Hannah Traies 20 Spinster, 5 Johnson Street, father Samuel Traies Tin Plate Worker
Witnesses Samuel Traies and Elizabeth Traies.
Kerry
Bernice and Bob - would you like copies?? I can scan and email if you pm email address
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4558
There has to be royalty somewhere!
|
hi kerry
I wonder why Hannah Caroline always went by Annie Hannah? I still cannot find her and her 2nd husband John Cottrell and her 2 boys in 1891 ...
can you see them?
deb
ps... glad the certs arrived 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
|
|
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 9277
|
I'll have a search Deb.
Oh BTW good morning
I've been busy catching up on adding all this information to my tree and not getting very far, not in the mood today.
I've never heard of Caroline being shortened to Annie or Anne, do you think her parents named her that for baptism and then decided it was too grand or they didn't like it and they changed it to Annie??
Kerry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 9277
|
Well I'm having no success at all. Can't find deaths or census for any of them. Hmm 
Kerry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 9277
|
Hepburn very kindly found for me Jane and Samuel Sanders on the 1901 census in Kensington
RG13 23 106 20 at Clarenden Road.
They were transcribed as Landers
Now apart from their deaths, I have the full set.
Kerry
What was the other one we couldn't find??
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
gardenerbob
RootsChat Extra
Offline
Posts: 64
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
|
Apart from me, everybody seems to have been very busy and done remarkable research. I am still catching up on it all but as a start I hopefully got the new information added to the website today. At least the bad weather has put a stop to any thoughts of gardening.
Deb - your finding Lucy J Roffe under Edwards is awesome - later I think we should do a write up on this research and how items like that were found - you are a great asset to this family research team.
Twilight - Re Edward Pearce - do you know when William Pearce's father died? - there is an 1849 PCC will for an Edward Pearce "shipwright" of Portsea.
Has anybody any ideas about the father of Eliza Pearce wife of Richard Gynn Trease of Warbstow Cornwall? The most likely candidate spooked me a bit in view of recent Roffe finds - appears to be a George Pieris - wait for it "cabman of Paddington/Marylebone". There is also another coincidence with the appearance of BOLT relatives for both Eliza and Margaret Pearce.
I've added details of Edward and Eliza Pearce onto a "Mystery Page" on the website -
http://www.trease.org.uk/traies/txr/txr_mystery.htm
I hope to get the TREASE website up to date in the next week with the missing information posted about 15 Rootschat pages ago plus further information on George Pearce and Emma Pearce's husband missed first time round.
Bob
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4558
There has to be royalty somewhere!
|
Hi Bob
Nice to see you again  Thanks for your kind words ... 
I love the mystery page !!.... there was something I wanted to remember to figure out ... I will go back to part one and see if I can find it .... maybe it, too, could be added to the' mysteries'
Happy Easter everyone !
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
|
|
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 9277
|
Happy Easter to you too Deb and Bob!
Thanks for all your help Deb from me too, you so often see that which I miss or give up on and I really appreciate it.
Bob there's a few challenges on the mystery page
I am looking forward to my second scavenger hunt which starts this week.
Kerry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4558
There has to be royalty somewhere!
|
Hi kerry
..thanks! I love helping .... This is what I wanted to remember ...quoting from part 1 ....
reply # 162
re;Frederick Henry TRAIES = Sophia Barnes
1843 b. 18Dec1843
Bob has him in all censuses except 1891 added just seen 1861 and 1871 also missing ...will look
1891;
Hayes , Middlesex
Providence Cottages
Susan Phillips head wid 33 dressmaker b Uxbridge, Middlesex
Frederich H Traies border 47 gas fitter b kensington
In 1901 Fred and Susannah Phillips are still together and both still widowed. (he is a whitesmith )
Bob has Sophia dying in 1918 in Uxbridge , but Fred is already a widower in 1891
so where is Sophia in 1891 and 1901?
added Just found Fredk H Traies (transcribed TRAIAS) in 1861 with his parents ..Henry and sarah A nee Ovens
---------------------------------------------------------------------
reply # 182
just a reminder to myself ...
* Sophia Traies wife of Frederick needs to be found (Bob has Sophia dying in 1918 in Uxbridge , but Fred is already a widower in 1891.)
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
|
|
|
kerryb
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 9277
|
Hi Deb
Brilliant!
Have you got the reference for Fred and Susan in 1901?
Kerry
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk |
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4558
There has to be royalty somewhere!
|
Hi Kerry
ref ;
RG13/1180 18 28
Trying to figure out who Edith Elizabeth Traies is . B 1886 D 1891...
Found a John Trace with wife Grace M and children in 1891...
John = 33 b Taunton Devon
Grace M = 31 b city of London
Percy J =12 islington
Ethel J = 4 "
space between the 2 kids for Edith Elizabeth
John , the dad is a Stage carriage driver 
check back ...found a marriage of John Trace = Grace maria Hill in devon 1877 ... but definitely Trace .... think the only way to find out who she belongs to is to order birth cert.
However ... when looking in the middlesex area for anyone born during the 1880's with the name Tra* or tre* ...they were the only ones that stuck out to me.... back to the drawing board ...
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4558
There has to be royalty somewhere!
|
hi Bob ...
you had thought this a possible for Eliza Pearce wife of Richard Gynn Trease .
Christchurch, Marylebone (1861 Census RG9 85 54 p16)
George Paris Head age 35 cabman
Mary Paris Wife age 34
Eliza Paris Daughter age 9 b. abt 1852 Paddington Middx
Caroline Faulkner age 7 ) Nurse children
Joseph Faulkner age 4 )
I traced George the cabman back to 1851 ...
He is Definitely George Paris b Hampshire 1826, he is a porter and living with Mary his wife and son John who is 7. They are living in ChristChurch Marylebone.
I have found this interesting family ...but the father is not a cabman, he is a gate porter. he has a daughter named Eliza Pearse , about the right age;
RG9/373 fol 152B p 3...have a look
Also I did find Eliza in 1871
North petherwin, Launceston , Devon
Eliza PEARCE unm 15 b Middlesex Westminster. She is working as a domestic servant for the Gregory family who hail from WARBSTOW and JACOBSTOW
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
|
|
|
deb usa
RootsChat Marquessate
Offline
Posts: 4558
There has to be royalty somewhere!
|
Hi guys
I have been going through Pallot's trying to find marriages for our Mystery Traies men ...
There was one transcibed as Geo TREYS= Francis BROWN , St Pancras 1836 .... on the original it is Wm Geo Treys.... do you have a missing William anywhere ?
deb
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
penfold, orchard, james , richards (travellers/romanies)
middleton, waterfield, skinner,adams, bray (devon, tiverton,silverton areas)
palmer,slack, smith, carnarton (cornwall)
|
|
|
|
