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1851 census lookup please completed thanks
« on: Wednesday 19 March 08 18:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
I am looking for John Pinder in 1851.

John was born in Totley Derbyshire in 1822.

He is living with his father Robert in 1841 in Totley Derbyshire, and on the 1861 census he is aged 38 years and married to Phoebe with a 1 year old daughter called Georgeanna.

Any help appreciated
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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 18:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi KR

1851
There is this family

John Pinder head mar 30 lab Derbys Totley
Hellen   "     wife mar 28                   "
Hannah "     dau u/m 4                      "
Mary       "    dau u/m 1                      "

living at Totley, Derbyshire
H0107/ 2336
folio 357
page 11

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Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder
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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 March 08 19:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi KR

1861

Is this his parents with Mary

Robert Pinder head mar 72 farmer 24 acres  Derbyshire ??
Elizabeth  "     wife mar 66                                    "          ??
James        "   son u/m 29                                      "      Totley ??
Edward       "  son u/m 26                                       "             "
Eliza           "  dau u/m 23                                       "              "
Peter          "  gr/son u/m 12                                   "              "
Mary           "  gr/dau u/m 10                                   "              "
Abraham     "  gr/son u/m 5                                    "               "
Loweser?        Hague gr/dau u/m 1                        "               "

living at Totley, Ecclesall Bierlow, Yorkshire
Rg9/ 3466
folio 76
page 12

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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 March 08 09:16 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ricky,

Thanks for looking for me.

I am not quite sure if this is the same John.
Maybe Phoebe could be his second wife.
I have John and Phoebe in 1871,
and they don't have a Hannah or a Mary with them, but then they could be married by that time.
I would have to see if I can find John and Ellen in 1861 and 1871, to know if they are two different families.

Many Thanks
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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 March 08 09:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi KR

I had a look last night and couldnt see a John Pinder with a wife Helen on the 1861 or later census's.  Huh

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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 March 08 15:10 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ricky,

That's very kind of you.
I will look on free BMD for a death of a Helen Pinder.

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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 March 08 20:35 GMT (UK) »

Hi KR.

These might help, all the transcribed burials at Dore Christ Church for PINDER/PINDAR.
Surname/ Forenames/ day/ Month/ Year/  Age/ Abode.
PINDAR    Herbert    7  Dec  1902            9m Totley Bents
PINDAR   James   24 Aug   1904   73   Totley
PINDER   Alice   21 Oct   1899   41   Wadsley Asylum
PINDER   Ann      Jun   1845   76   Dore
PINDER   Clara Eliza 16 Dec   1887   20   Dore
PINDER   Edmund   25   Jan   1869   54   Dore
PINDER   Edwin   5   Apr   1878   65   Norton
PINDER   Edwin   11   Jul   1898   57   Sheffield
PINDER   Eliza   11   Dec   1868   1d   Totley
PINDER   Elizabeth   17   Nov   1861   66   Totley Bents
PINDER   Elizabeth   5   Apr   1874   5m   Totley Bents
PINDER   Ellen   5   Jun   1855   32   Dore
PINDER   Ellen   10   Aug   1851   33   Totley Bense
PINDER   John   15   Feb   1876   61   Totley
PINDER   John   15   Mar   1877   54   Holmesfield,Moorwoods
PINDER   Letitia   6   Jul   1851   11m   Totley Bense
PINDER   Mary   29   Jan   1873   64   Totley
PINDER   Peter   9   Feb   1839   75   Dore
PINDER   Peter   17   Dec   1835   83+   Totley
PINDER   Peter   9?   Feb   1844   57   Dore
PINDER   Peter   14   Jul   1869   67   Dore
PINDER   Peter   21   Jul   1887   60   Totley
PINDER   Phoebe   22   Sep   1869   2+   Totley Moor
PINDER   Robert   18   Apr   1866   77   Totley Bents
PINDER   Samuel   13   Sep   1859   19   Totley Bents
PINDER   Sarah   19   Sep   1859   73   Totley
PINDER   Sarah   3   Feb   1874   80   Dore
PINDER   Sarah   14   Mar   1884   65   Sheffield,Summerfield St
PINDER   Sarah Ellen   19   Mar   1856   1m   Totley
PINDER   Sophia   3   Oct   1839   14m   Dore
PINDER   William Fearn   13   Oct   1887   55   Sheffield,Jessop St


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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 March 08 14:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tuppie,

That's brill
Thank You.

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Re: 1851 census lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 March 08 09:25 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Just an update.

John Pinder was a widower when he married Phoebe in 1860 at Dore.
So I think Helen / Ellen was his first wife, who you found in the 1851 census Ricky, and that Mary Pinder age 10 in 1861 was the daughter of John.
It has taken a while to unravel the grandchildren of Robert but I think I have it now.

Looking at the burial index there are two Ellen Pinders noted, I think one of these could be Helen/ Ellen his wife.

Thanks to you both.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 March 08 09:28 GMT (UK) »

Hi KR

Glad you got it sorted
regards
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