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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
Since joining RootsChat, I have been constantly amazed at how many fellow researchers have connections to various individuals on my Family Tree. Some of those people now contact me on a regular basis sharing various pieces of information that are perhaps "too sensitive" to post on the site. However, in most cases, any information that may assist researchers is placed on the appropriate Board.
I have resisted the temptation to open a Topic on a family that permeates the whole of my Family Tree, for a number of reasons. One of my reasons is that when I looked at the amount of information that I had, I believed the subject matter would have to be substantially reduced or modified in a number of ways. However, I relented and decided to post information for the benefit of other researchers as well as members of my own family.
I am of the opinion that researchers on RootsChat have become accustomed to my style of writing and believe it to be easy to understand and print out for further work to be carried out. Because I wanted to do justice to the Hepburn family history, I decided that I would not hold back on the very many connections to other families that I have written above, but, to be fair to our Moderator, when these connections occurred, I would simply refer readers to the appropriate postings on RootsChat.
I will start as far back in time as I have records for, and that will mean, of course, that some of the source material, will be at times, a trifle vague. However I include it because it is of some importance, and tends to show where the family resided and how they, like other families, "migrated" to other parts of the country.
The story of the Hepburns is much like the story of other members of my extended family and, upon reflection, should have been introduced to you much earlier. I hope that you enjoy it and find the data contained within it to be of some value to you.
As always, I would ask that you carefully examine what I write and where it is patently obvious that I have made a mistake or typing error, you let me know so that I can modify the posting.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
Our story begins about the year 1630 near the shores of the Firth of Forth,only a short distance away from where I was born all those long years ago. A child who was christened as David HEPBURN came into the world, and I have no idea who his parents were, or who his siblings were.
David HEPBURN met and married a young lady by the name of Christian MAIRNS. They married on the 17th January, 1656 at a place called Abbotshall, which in today's vernacular would be referred to as a suburb of Kirkcaldy in Fife.
I have to admit that I only have knowledge of three of their children, and I feel sure that there would be more. However, the important thing to remember is that I was looking for the specific individual who started off this line in my Family Tree. I count myself as very fortunate that I was successful in tracking down this individual.
The three names that I have are:
David HEPBURN christened 21st October, 1660 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Alison HEPBURN christened 22nd October, 1665 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Alison HEPBURN christened 14th June, 1668 at Abbotshall, Fife.
In my next posting, I will be taking a look at that important name that heads the list - David Hepburn who was christened in October, 1660 at Abbotshall.I look forward to your company,
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
In my previous posting I was delighted to introduce you to who may be regarded as one of the most important inividuals on my personal Family Tree. His name is David HEPBURN and he was christened at Abbotshall in Fife on the 21st October, 1660.
On the 26th of June, 1688 , when he was about 27 years of age, David married Jannet MURRIE (Janet Murray?) at Abbotshall. Once again, I am unable to give fellow researchers a complete listing of all of David and Janet's children, but I believe that the information that I do give can be researched, and thus provide some quite useful information.
Their children:
David HEPBURN Extracted Birth Cert 30th July, 1694 at Abbotshall, Fife.James HEPBURN Extracted Birth Cert 20th March, 1698 at Abbotshall, Fife
Jannet HEPBURN Extracted Birth Cert 21st February, 1692 at Abbotshall, Fife
In my next posting, I will be taking a look at David HEPBURN, who was christened on the 30th July, 1694 at Abbotshall and we shall see who and when he married, as well as the names of at least some of his children.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
In my previous posting, I stated that I would be looking at the David HEPBURN , who was christened on the 30th July, 1694 at Abbotshall to David HEPBURN and Jannet Murrie (Janet MURRAY?).
David HEPBURN married Christian STAINES on the 27th of July, 1716 at Abbotshall in Fife.
[b][/b]Their childen were, (and these are Extracted Birth Records):
Janet Hepburn christened 23rd June, 1717 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Christian Hepburn christened 26th September, 1719 at Abbotshall.
Anna Hepburn christened 30th July, 1721 at Abbotshall, Fife.
James Hepburn christened 11th February, 1724 at Abbotshall, Fife.
David Hepburn christened 11th December, 1725 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Arnott Hepburn christened 14th January, 1728 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Alexander Hepburn christened 24th December, 1732 at Abbotshall, Fife.
In my next posting, I shall make a short detour from the real progression to include yet another example of members of one family marrying a sister or brother of a nearby family.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
In my previous posting I made mention of David HEPBURN who married Christian STAINES on the 27th of July, 1716 at Abbotshall. In this posting, I make mention of James Hepburn who married Anna STAINES around 1718. I have not researched my material for any connection between Christian and Anna, but would hope that some kind soul would do that for me whilst I concentrate on my further postings.
Their children:
Janet Hepburn EXT christened 6th December, 1719 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Janet Hepburn christened 30th July, 1721 at Abbotshall, Fife.
David Hepburn christened 12h September, 1722 at Abbotshall, Fife.
James Hepburn christened 30th May, 1725 at Abbotshall, Fife.
John Hepburn christened 5th June, 1727 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Margaret Hepburn christened 30th August, 1729 at Abbotshall, Fife.
In my next posting, I will return to the natural progression of my personal Famaily Tree.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
In a previous posting I made mention of James HEPBURN the son of David HEPBURNand Christian STAINES He was christened on the 11th February, 1724 at Abbotshall in Fife.
On the 14th Of June, 1764, the 40 year-old James married Margaret Millar at Abbotshall.
Their children were:
Janet Hepburn christened 14th April, 1765 at Abbotshall, Fife.
David Hepburn christened 1st February, 1767 at Abbotshall in Fife.
John Hepburn christened 5th February, 1769 at Abbotshall in Fife.
James Hepburn christened 31st March, 1771 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Alexander Hepburn christened 31st March, 1771 at Abbotshall, Fife.
J. Hepburn?? christened 23rd May, 1773 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Spears Hepburn christened 23rd May, 23rd May 1773 at Abbotshall, Fife.
In my next posting, I will continue with David Hepburn, who was christened on 1st February, 1767 at Abbotshall. In the meantime, I wish to point out that he went on to marry Isabel PEAGE (PAGE?) and that his brother, Alexander, who was christened on 31st March, 1771 at Abbotshall, went on to marry Agnes REID, who was born on 23rd March, 1775 at Abbotshall. The marriage took place on 15th March, 1793 at Edinburgh.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
In my previous posting I spoke of David Hepburn, the son of James Hepburn and his wife, Margaret Millar. David was born on 28th January, 1767 at Abbotshall in Fife.
According to an Extracted Marriage Record, David HEPBURN married Isabel PEAGE on the 16th October, 1789 at Abbotshall in Fife.
Their children:
Christian HEPBURN born 13th October, 1790 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Alexander HEPBURN born 28th October, 1792 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Janet HEPBURN born 6th May, 1796 at Abbotshall, Fife.
David HEPBURN born 1st May, 1797 at Abbotshall, Fife.
James HEPBURN born 1st May, 1799 at Abbotshall, Fife.
In my next posting I will be looking at Alexander HEPBURN, another son of James Hepburn and his wife, Margaret Millar. Alexander was the younger brother of David.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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tommacgregor
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Hello All,
In my previous posting, I stated that I would be taking a look at Alexander HEPBURN, the younger brother of David HEPBURN who married Isabel PEAGE.
Alexander HEPBURN was christened on the 31st March, 1771 at Abbotshall in Fife and he married Agnes REID, who had been born on the 23rd March, 1775 at Abbotshall. The marriage took place on the 15th March, 1793 at Edinburgh. Agnes' parents were George REID and Janet ROSS who had married about the year 1760. George REID was the son of Andrew REID, who had been born on 21st November, 1736 and Elspeth BEVERIDGE.
Alexander and Agnes' children were:
James Hepburn christened 27th August, 1793 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Margaret Hepburn christened 30th April, 1797 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Isabella Hepburn christened 5th December, 1798 at Abbotshall. She went on to marry William THOMPSON on 8th April, 1827 at Abbotshall.
George Hepburn born 1st February, 1801 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Alexander Hepburn born 11th June, 1803 at Abbotshall, Fife.
David Hepburn born 15th February, 1805 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Betty Hepburn born 4th August, 1807 at Abbotshall, Fife.
In my next posting, I will be taking a look at David HEPBURN, the son of David HEPBURN and Isabel PEAGE who had been born on 1st May, 1797 at Abbotshall, Fife.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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Hello All,
In my previous posting I stated that I would be taking a look at David HEPBURN, the son of David HEPBURN and Isobel PEAGE
David HEPBURN was born on the 1st May, 1797 at Abbotshall in Fife and, in a change of location, he married Margaret HAY at Leslie, nestled at the foot of the Lomond Hills, on the 26th February, 1815.
Their children:
Andrew Hepburn born 11th December, 1815 at Leslie in Fife.
William Hepburn born 11th August, 1817 at Leslie in Fife.
Janet Hepburn born 3rd August, 1819 at Leslie in Fife.
David Hepburn born 26th May, 1821 at Leslie in Fife.
James Hepburn born 10th March, 1824 at Leslie in Fife.
John Hepburn born 13th June, 1826 at Leslie in Fife.
William HEPBURN, born 11th August, 1817 at Leslie in Fife, will be the subject of my next posting, when I resume in the morning.
Kind Regards,
Tom
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TunjiLees
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I don't know if you have seen it, but could following testaments be connected to this family?
Hepburne William 09/07/1650 merchant, burges of Kirkcaldy 9 July 1650. (See also Kirk, Janet) (Testament Testamentar and Inventory) (St Andrews Commissary court) CC20/4/10
Kirk Janet 13/09/1649 spouse to William Hepburne, merchant in Kirkcaldy 13 September 1649 (Testament Dative and Inventory) (St Andrews Commissary court) CC20/4/10
They had at least three children in Kirkcaldy in the 1640s.
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Langtonian
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No less interesting is The Presbytrie Booke of Kirkcaldie which provides some interesting info. on a John Hepburne who was hauled before the Kirk Session in the 1640s for adultery!
It provides info. on a whole load of other families as well, fantastic insight into the day to day lives of our ancestors!
(http://www.scotsfind.org/kirkcaldy_access/kirkcaldie.pdf)
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tommacgregor
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Hello, and thank you both. I greatly appreciate the fact that you have given me something to study about the Hepburn family of Abbotshall and the surrounding area. This is exactly what RootsChat is, and should be. A place where people can exchange information and assist others in a spirit of friendship.
Sometimes I love to add a few splashes of colour to the broad canvass of my postings. I know that our friends in Canada, America and Australia appreciate it when I add some details of the area where I grew up a long time ago. One day, I will sit down and devote several pages to Auchterderran, Cowdenbeath, Ballingry, Loch Leven as well as my life on a farm quite close to the Royal Palace of Falkland.
Many thanks for the website. I will certainly have an enjoyable time going through it.
Have a Happy Easter.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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Hello All,
I am always delighted when people like Sancti, Langtonian and TunjiLees submit just a wee snippet of information, or even a certificate, about my native Fife. It reminds me to add those splashes of colour to my postings that so many people in other countries seem to like.
Now, for the past few hours, I've been poring over some documents, simply because I noticed the name of a Son-in-Law on the Death Certificate of the wife of William Hepburn, a lady by the name of Annie Birse. That name was George Elder, and although I had noted the name some time ago, I decided to find out just a little bit more. George Elder appeared as the Informant on the Death Certificate of Anne Hepburn, Maiden Surname, Birse. He was her Son-in-Law. I realised of course, from the following details, that Annie Birse had three daughters, Anne, Margaret and Mary Hepburn. Which one was the wife of George Elder? It didn't take me all that long to discover that George Elder had married Annie's daughter Margaret on the 12th March, 1858 at Leslie.
I mention the town of Leslie quite often and people in various countries could not be expected to know the first thing about the town. Well, Leslie is situated just nine miles north-west of my birthplace, Kirkcaldy in Fife and nestles at the base of the Lomond Hills and overlooks the River Leven. At the time of William Hepburn and his wife, Annie, the town flourished as a centre involved in weaving, spinning and bleaching, much of which took place by the river. Three flax-spinning works existed, the most extensive being at a place called Prinlaws. I was not surprised to see that both of my ancestors, Annie Birse and William Hepburn both died at Prinlaws.
Alright, now that I've given you a mental image of the location, let me give you some details that may assist you in your search for your ancestors.
William Hepburn, as stated in a previous posting, was born on the 11th August, 1817 at Leslie in Fife. His parents were David Hepburn and Margaret Hay, a fact that is confirmed on his Death Certificate. Although I have not been able to lay my hands on a copy of their Marriage Certificate, I would think that the marriage took place at some time prior to the birth of their eldest child, Margaret Hepburn.
Their children:
Margaret Hepburn born 4th May, 1839 at Leslie in Fife. She went on to marry George Elder on the 12th March, 1858 at Leslie in Fife.David Hepburn born 15th August, 1841 at Leslie in Fife.
William Hepburn born 16th April, 1842 at Leslie in Fife.
Mary Hepburn born 2nd May, 1844 at Leslie in Fife.
Andrew Hepburn born 1st March, 1846 at Leslie in Fife,
Anne Hepburn born 21st June, 1848 at Leslie in Fife.
James Hepburn born 21st March, 1851 at Leslie in Fife.
Francis Hepburn born 16th December, 1852 at Leslie in Fife.
John Hepburn born 15th October, 1854 at Leslie in Fife.
Joseph Hepburn born 2nd November, 1857 at Leslie. It is his name that appears on his father's Death Certificate, dated May, 1883.
My next posting will show details of my Great-Grandfather, David Hepburn, the young man shown on the above list as having been born on the15th August, 1841 at Leslie in Fife.
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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Hello All,
Before taking a look at David Hepburn, born 15th August, 1841, to William Hepburn and Ann (commonly called Annie) Birse, I want to set a scenario before you that should be treated as an exercise in deduction. I would not be at all surprised if some of our more senior members of RootsChat decided to test their skills as well!
I have noticed that a great many people when seeking assistance on RootsChat, simply don't give enough information to enable a researcher to do an accurate investigation. I have no intention of doing that. On the contrary, I will give quite a lot of information, and simply ask you to closely examine it, and then submit your comments.
On the 21st of January, 1887 at the Manse of Beath in Fife, David Hepburn, a pit-head worker, aged about 47 married Janet Cook, also a pit-head worker, about 12 years his junior, i.e. 35 years of age. From that scrap of information, it isn't difficult to obtain a rough birth-date for each individual.What is important to note is that each of them had been married before. In other words, David was a widower and Janet was a widow.
Davids father, William, was a wood turner/joiner and his wife was Anne Birse. They both hailed from the Lumphinnans area of Cowdenbeath in Fife.
Janet's father, Archibald Cook, had died 17 years before the wedding, on the 15th January, 1870, to be exact. Janet's mother, Elizabeth Cook, M.S. Strang, was alive at the time of her daughter's wedding and died about three years after the wedding, i.e. 1890.
I can tell you that Janet Cook married three times: 1st marriage to a man named Page about 1875, 2nd marriage to James Wallace on the 13th July, 1882, and the 3rd marriage to David Hepburn on the 21st January, 1887 at the Manse of Beath.
Now, I'm going to present you with some new information that you really should examine very, very closely because of the similarity in names, locations, and birthdates.
A death occurred at No. 3 Nailor Street, Leven on the 28th January, 1949 of an 80 year-old woman named ANNIE BIRSE MEEK. Again, using a bit of mental arithmetic, we can work out her approximate birthdate, c 1869. This elderly lady had been married twice, 1st marriage to an Alexander Elder and the 2nd marriage to Adam MEEK, both coal miners. It would appear that she had a daughter named ANNE HEPBURN ELDER who was born on the 7th April, 1897 - did she? Because of the "modern date" of her death, i.e. 19th April, 1978, we should be able to see who her parents were on her Death Certificate!
Looks quite easy, doesn't it? Hang on though - not so fast! ANNIE BIRSE MEEK's Death Certificate specifically states that her parents were William Hepburn, a Joiner and Cabinet Maker and her mother was Jessie Hepburn Maiden Surname: WALLACE. Now, isn't that a coincidence! The second marriage of Janet Cook, who married David Hepburn on 21st January, 1897 was to a James WALLACE. It gets even better, - the Informant on the Death Certificate of ANNIE BIRSE MEEK who died on 28th January, 1949 at Leven in Fife, was her son, James ELDER. In other words, he must have been born to Annie's first husband, Alexander Elder.
When I see a name like ELDER starting to appear over and over again in my Family Tree, I naturally show some interest and have a bit of a look at what information is available to me. I know that I will be returning to the Beveridge and Orrock families shortly, so I wasn't surprised to find the following:
JAMES ELDER born 23rd May, 1901 at Kelty near Cowdenbeath, Fife.
JOSEPH ELDER born 23rd June, 1905 at Kelty near Cowdenbeath, Fife.
THOMAS ELDER born 23rd June, 1905 at Kelty, near Cowdenbeath, Fife.
ANNIE BEVERIDGE ELDER born 27th May, 1909 at Kelty, near Cowdeneath, Fife.
A little bit more of "digging" produced: JOSEPH ELDER married JEMIMA ORROCK BEVERIDGE on the 31st December, 1894 at Kelty, near Cowdenbeath, Fife.
O.K. I've given you a tremendous amount of information, but as it's Easter, I think that I deserve a little break! Using the above information and my previous postings on the Hepburns, plus any other information that you may gather, make a posting giving the connections between William Hepburn born 11th August, 1817 and married to Ann Birse, back just a couple of generations to Annie Hepburn ELDER born in April, 1897 and who died in April, 1978. Oh, just to make it interesting, when do you think Anne Birse really married William Hepburn? Who do you think Jessie Wallace was - she became the wife of William Hepburn? I could continue firing questions at you all night long, but I'll leave you in peace!
Have a great Easter break!
Kind Regards,
Tom.
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Confirmation of the marriage
26/02/1815 HEPBURN DAVID married MARGARET HAY at Leslie (Fife) /FIFE
This was taken from the OPR index on SP. I didnt view the image as they usually contain basic information but on occasion contain parents names
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