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Mum44
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Hi -
Think your best course of action would be to send for the marriage certificate - that will give you the location, both father's names and occupations, the ages (hopefully) of bride and groom.
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte.
Kent: Float, Cutbush. Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham. Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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Mum44
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Hi Dave
If you order through the GRO (can be done on line) all you need to put on is the name of either the bride or groom, and quote the gro reference, which in this case is
Sept Quarter 1911. Bedford Vol 3b Pg 703
They will send you that certificate, based on the reference rather than the venu.
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Names: Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed, Fielder, Cawte.
Kent: Float, Cutbush. Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham. Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott
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The Newfster
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shaping up to be an interesting one - the name Gasper is quite uncommon, but the 1901 census seems to have a couple of candidates - including a lad from Crickhowell - Welsh border.
My money is on a lad in Quidhampton (Wilton Dist) who was registered as Henry John, but seems to be just John on the census - father Henry, mum Emma - but as Mum44 says, prob best to get the Cert for this one.....
PS. The 2 lads must be related - Quidhampton PoB figures in both families as does Gamekeeping ...
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Meliora
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Hello, Dave,
This may help.
1901 census
RG13/1488 folio 26 page 2
23, Howbery St Bedford St Cuthbert.
Louisa e Newman, head W age 40 laundress b Beds Radwell
Lucy R E Turner age 18 b Bedford
Herbert E C Turner age 15 Bootmakers app. b ditto
Lilian A Newman dau age 12 b ditto
1891 census
RG12/1248 folio 4 & 5 pages 2 & 3
23 Howbery St Bedford St Cuthbert.
Albert E Newman head age 28 Bootmaker b Bedford
Louisa E wife age 30 b Radwell
Lucy dau age 8 b Bedford
Herbert E son age 6 b ditto
Lilian A. dau age 2 b ditto
Death
Albert Edward Newman age 32
June ¼ 1897 Bedford 3b 191
This is the only 1901 census entry that seemed to fit for Henry J. Gasper.
1901 census
RG13/3204 folio 59 page 1
Dunsa Lane, Edenson, Derbyshire
Sidney J. Gasper head age 35 Head Gamekeeper b Wilts ,..?..hampton
Ellen E. wife age 35 b Hereford Woolhope
Henry J. son age 10 S. Wales Crickhowell
Ada L dau age 8 b Lancs, Knowsley
Annie J dau age 7 b ditto
Dorothy E. age 5 b Derby Edenson
Registry Offices do need to know the name of any church before issuing a marriage cert, the ONs vol & page nos do not mean anything to them, it means then trawling thro' 3 months,July, Aug & Sept of all the churches in Bedford.
I don't know Bedford at all but looking at the district where Lilian Newman lived & bearing in mind marriage usually took place where the woman lived, I found that there is a St Cuthbert's church in Bedford. Have a look at this site.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/BDF/Bedford/StCuthbert/index.html
This may be the one you are looking for.
Alternatively, as suggested the marriage cert will give you details & you can check whether the 1901 census for Henry J. Gasper is the right one as it will show his father's name.
Good luck,
Meliora
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The Newfster
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This is the only 1901 census entry that seemed to fit for Henry J. Gasper.
but you need to take into account the BMD entries for Wilton before making that stmt 
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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The Newfster
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Registry Offices do need to know the name of any church before issuing a marriage cert, the ONs vol & page nos do not mean anything to them
Thats why Mum44 made her recommendation to order via the GRO facility ....
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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willow154
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Hi,
Meliore beat me to it - I also felt St.Cuthbert's might be a good place to start.
Have you looked on the Bedfordshire Family History Society site - they have lots of resources available.
It's not easy finding information when you're far away - I'm in the same situation, and found the following book useful:
Tracing Ancestors in Bedfordshire by Colin R Chapman
ISBN 1 873686 12 9
Pages of information telling you where to find information for the area. Might be useful to buy if you need to find any more information.
Possibility might be in the local newspaper. eg. The Bedford Times - the local history library might be helpful and look for you. But it's difficult without a more precise date.
Anyway, just a few thoughts. Hope they help - all hopefully will be revealed soon, when you get the certificate.
Kind regards,
Paulene.
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