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Bryan1
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James Michael FITZPATRICK b 1880 Christchurch NZ; d 10 Jun 1938 Palmerston North
Julia McKEOWEN, b 1881 Wellington NZ; d 5 Sep 1961 Palmerston North NZ
They are my maternal gp's and I've come to a halt on this line with no further details. Any information out there would be great. Thanks
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McKeowen, Fitzpatrick, Parrott: New Zealand
Parrott, Pickett, Logan, Farrell: Australia
Logan, Farrell, M'Partlan, Connolly, Fitzpatrick, Bradley: Ireland
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Mk2_Zephyr
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Hi Bryan, welcome to the board. 
Are you looking for the parents of the above ( Suggest getting the marriage cert- 1914)
Do you have any certificates relating to this couple ?
If you are looking for descendants, then the newspaper death notices of the couple should have family.
You could look at the electoral rolls for families living in the same area around the births.
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Lucy2
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Hi Bryan1 ... welcome to RootsChat
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Lucy2
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Hi Bryan1 ... welcome to RootsChat
I see you are in Christchurch. Have you had a look yet at the wonderful card index of births / baptisms / marriages available at Ch Ch Library ? Perhaps there is something there for your James (and other members of his family) ?
Lu
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Bryan1
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Hi Lucy2
Thank you for your helpful reply. YOU could see I was floundering! I will do as you suggest.
Regards,
Bryan
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McKeowen, Fitzpatrick, Parrott: New Zealand
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Logan, Farrell, M'Partlan, Connolly, Fitzpatrick, Bradley: Ireland
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Jean Price
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Hello Bryan,
You will find their burial details here.
And you may find other family members
http://www.pncc.govt.nz/Templates/Custom/Cemeteries
Regards,
Jean
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Fawcett, Down; Gibson, Ayrshire and Tasmania; James, Cornwall and Victoria Aus; Cox, Northamptonshire, Thomas, Gloucestershire; Albury, Berkshire,
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Bryan1
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Hi Jean/Lucy
Thanks. I have been as far as I can go with the cemeteries at this stage. So I'll start with the library.
Bryan
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Bryan1
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Just an update:
Much to my embarrassment I found a photo of Catherine (Julia's mother) in my cardboard box filing cabinet! And on the back was an address: 16 Pitarua St, Thorndon, Wellington. I do now recall my mother talking about Pitarua St. And Julia and her sister lived in Goring St just up the road.
So then I found her on the 1893 electoral roll (but not him - Michael). Then I found a Catherine & Michael buried in the same grave at Karori. There's a marriage for a Michael and a Kate BRADLY 1879. Date is probably about right. But I don't like the "Kate"!
One of the difficulties is the surname spelling. Mum's marriage certificate has it McKeowan. Julia's birth has it McKeon. And all the rest are McKeowen.
I've also probably found death records for Julia's sisters. Except one, they were known in the family as the 'maiden aunts' so I doubt the name has continued. I never knew them apart from the married one.
So it's all slowly coming together. I thought I'd attach the photo as I think she seems a strong woman and good on her for being on the 'first-women-to-vote' roll!
Thanks to all who gave hints and suggestions. No doubt I'll require more!
Bryan
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McKeowen, Fitzpatrick, Parrott: New Zealand
Parrott, Pickett, Logan, Farrell: Australia
Logan, Farrell, M'Partlan, Connolly, Fitzpatrick, Bradley: Ireland
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Lucy2
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Hi Bryan
Thanks for sharing your wonderful photo with us.
Glad to hear you've had some further luck in finding other family members too.
Most times we have to be "flexible" with the spelling of names - many were spelt as they "sounded", or how the person recording them, thought they should be written etc. etc. .... many names also have been mis-transcribed along the way.
Christian names too - we have to consider all the diminutives / pet names. And the fact that people may have used different forms of their names throughout their lives.
(I'm currently tracking a g-aunt - she has no NZ birth cert - she married as "plain old Margaret" - on early electoral rolls she's "Maggie" - and then Margaret, and back to "Maggie" again - she's buried as Margaret ... but her will tells me she her real "handle" was "Margaret Mary Agnes" ! And it's a similar scenario with two of her sisters).
Perhaps the "Michael McKEOWN / Kate BRADLY" marriage does then relate to the Michael and Catherine McKEOWN buried at Karori Cemetery ?? ("Kate" was used for both Catherine and Katherine/Katharine)
I see you have Julia's birth cert ... so the surname is "McKEON"
Father - Michael ... mother Catherine (nee BRADLY) ? ?
(Is the "Bradly" spelt correctly .. or as "Bradley") ?
Lu
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Bryan1
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Thanks Lucy
I have an open mind on all connections still.
Yes I think the BRADLY is a misspelling as well. Time will tell!
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Bryan1
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Just a further update for any followers of this thread.
James FITZPATRICK m Julia McKeowen on 16 May 1914. Her parents were Michael (a carter by trade) and Kate (sic) BRADLEY.
James' parents were Thomas (farmer) and Ellen CONNOLLY. His present residence is Wellington, his usual residence is Koeke, Mataroa, which I've discovered is west of Taihape.
James was a widower; his first wife was Ellen CONNOLLY (yes! it is correct!), buried in Linwood Cemetery ChCH, d 13 Jul 1908. Born Ireland. The headstone has this spelling.
I have a marriage index ref. for Thomas and Ellen CONLEY (sic), 1874. But cannot find one for James and Ellen.
After the marriage they headed back to Koeke and by 1922 (Electoral Rolls) were in Palmerston North with Ellen and a John Bernard Fitzpatrick (James' brother, I would say), the latter two being buried together at Terrace End cemetery.
I still have some more Fitzpatrick's to follow up from Koeke.
By the way PN City Council cemetery database now has photos for Terrace End cemetery and their link has changed:
http://www.palmerstonnorth.com/ServicesAndFacilities/OnlineServices/CemeteryAndCremationSearch.aspx
Just a question: Is it worthwhile recording these findings for this message board?
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Mk2_Zephyr
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Its nice to get a result and to share with the people that helped, but no need to continously update everything.
These posts will get on to google, so others will find you later on if they are looking.
So enjoy your research and if you get stuck again don't fail to drop another line.
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Most excellently put, Zephyr.
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