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Topic: 1851 look ups, please - Hope (Read 108 times)
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chrissiehope
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Hi
Looking for the following:
Thomas Hope, wife Sarah (no birth dates) daughter Eliza b 1851 - possibly in Hankelow nr Audlem
John Hope, wife Elizabeth (no birth dates, Elizabeth may have died 1848), daughter Sarah Ann b 1846, son Alfred b 1848 - possibly in Buerton or Audlem
I've found the children's baptisms at Audlem but I can't quite fit them into my tree, tho I have some possibles. I'm hoping that a census entry or two may shed some light on this !
Cheers,
Chris
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Hindley family (Chesh/NWales), Hope family (Chesh), Sheppard family (London), Carlisle family (London), Welch family (London/Notts).
Abergele town/area esp Chapel St/Post Office Lane 1800-1900
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There is this family?
Cox bank
Audlem
Cheshire
John Hope Head M 25 ag lab
jane wife 24
sarah daughter 5
Alfred son 3
george son 2
harriet daughter 1
all b Audlem Cheshire
HO107 2170 361 8
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Can't find Eliza in 1851 -maybe she was b after census
this could be them in 1861
2 China St
Fenton
Stoke on trent
Staffs
Thomas Hope head m 34 carter Audlem Cheshire
Sarah wife 32 Audlem Cheshire
Eliza daughter 10 Audlem Cheshire
Sarah Ann daughter 8 Fenton
Emily daughter 5 fenton
Mary jane daughter 8mths Fenton
Thomas Smith Boarder U Collier salop
Sarah ann Smith boarder 10 Wolverhampton Staffs
RG9 1940 40 29
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Haven't managed to locate John/Jane in later census
Suz
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There is always the possibility that "Jane" with Thomas was really "sarah Jane"
My mary janes appear sometimes as mary others as jane???
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sorry-gettingsarah's and Elizabeths mixed up -will be better when I've drunk my coffee
Suz
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Could this be Thomas/Sarah in 1851?
Woolfall Mop? Audlem Cheshire
Thomas Hope head M 26 lab Hankelow Cheshire
Sarah wife 23 Audlem Cheshire
next door
John Hope head M 62 bricklayer Buerton Cheshire
Sarah wife 60 Buerton
Reuben son U 20 lab Henkelow Cheshire
Simeon? son U 17 lab henkelow
HO107 2170 402 8
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chrissiehope
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Hi Suz,
Happy Easter !
Yes, that will definitely be them in 1851 - I had this Thomas pencilled in as the Thomas who was the son of John & Sarah, so if they're living next door then that clinches it as far as I'm concerned !!
I found a marriage in Mar Q 1851 Nantwich on FreeBMD of a Thomas Hope and possibly a Sarah Bloor (lots of other names but only one Sarah !) - interestingly, on the same page was a John Hope, and a Jane Walley !
Thomas the son of John & Sarah, had a brother called John, who I think was the one who married Elizabeth (probably nee Evans who I think died following the birth of Alfred), and you then found with a Jane !! So it looks like a double wedding ! The only fly in the ointment is that the John & Jane in 1851 already had two children born before 1851.........!!
It's Woolfall Moss by the way !
Cheers,
Chris
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wonder if John who was married to Elizabeth remarried as a widower to Jane -the marriage cert would show if he was a widower?
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1841 shows
Little heath
Audlem
Cheshire
Mary Hill 60 farmer
james Hill 45
JANE WALLEY 14 FS
and next door but one
Thomas Hope 45 bricklayer
Mary 50
James 20
William 20
Ann 16
Charles 13
all b in county
HO107 116 20 6 6
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You thought Eliabeth may have died after birth of Alfred?
There is son Gerge age 2 in 1851
I can't find a birth reg of George Hope 1848'49 Nantwich -but I can find a birth Junqtr 1848 of george Walley???
Check out BMD -I may have missed it
Maybe jane Walley had illegit son George when she married??
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