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Topic: JOHNSON and Sons Tailors and Clothiers 51, Sidney Street, Cambridge, any photos? (Read 1686 times)
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liverpool annie
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This is all I can give you right now Keith but I'll take a look later and see what else I can find !!  ... just hope nobody gets the "needle" !! 
Can't find Fulbourne Militia ... but heres Cambridge !!
Formation and History of the Cambridgeshire Militia
In Cambridgeshire, the Militia Regiment was raised in August 1759 (the month of the Battle of Minden), with a quota of 480 men formed into 8 companies.
Details of the location of Militia Lists and Musters 1757-1876 for Cambridgeshire records can be found in the book "Militia Lists and Musters 1757-1876" compiled by Jeremy Gibson and Mervyn Medlycott, 3rd edition 1994 and published by the Federation of Family History Societies, page 13.
'Records of the Miltia & Volunteer Forces 1757-1945' by William Spencer published by the Public Record Offices.
Formation and History of the Cambridgeshire Regiment
The Cambridgeshire Regiment traces its history to the formation of the Cambridgeshire Rifle Volunteer Corps in the year 1860.
'A Guide to the Cambridgeshire Regiment' is available ISBN 0 9531942 1 3 © The Cambridgeshire Regiment Collection, 1998.
http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Regiments/cambmilitia.html
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CAM/MilitiaListsandMusters.html#MilitiaLists
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Keith Sherwood
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Annie,
Thanks so much for all those amazing links! You've got so many of these up your sleeve, sorry that I buttonholed you about all this, blah blah blah... I'll shut up now and concentrate on the tailoring. Getting really quite excited about all this 18thC Cambridge family history. I'm now beginning to become very interested in my own city (have lived here for 36 years) for the very first time, strange really. Perhaps it's something to do with the fact that the University has dominated in the "Gown" versus "Town" battle of interests over the years.
keith
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Keith Sherwood
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The ancestral trail never ends, does it...?
I'd better give an update on the JOHNSON's who seem to have been a bit of a business dynasty in Cambridge in the early part of the 19thC. Thanks to cross-matching various census pages on Ancestry, and finding some (not all) of the baptisms of up to perhaps 7 children born to John and Susannah JOHNSON between 1800 and 1818 (found four Non-conformist entries listed at Dr Williams Library at the Cambs FHS site), it appears that in 1851, for example, four brothers were running three separate businesses in Cambridge within spitting distance of one another...
William and Octavius JOHNSON were running the tailors at 51, Sidney St, aforesaid...
Right next door brother James JOHNSON was running a bookshop at 50, Sidney Street...
And just around the corner brother Richard JOHNSON was running a grocery at 29, Market Hill.
A bit of a monopoly, then, on what you wore, what you read, and what you had to eat in mid-19thC Cambridge...
By 1871 Richard had retired to Henley, and brother William to a village south of Cambridge. Not quite sure yet what happened to James, but business must have boomed for the family...
keith
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sheffieldposh
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The ancestral trail never ends, does it...?
I'd better give an update on the JOHNSON's who seem to have been a bit of a business dynasty in Cambridge in the early part of the 19thC. Thanks to cross-matching various census pages on Ancestry, and finding some (not all) of the baptisms of up to perhaps 7 children born to John and Susannah JOHNSON between 1800 and 1818 (found four Non-conformist entries listed at Dr Williams Library at the Cambs FHS site), it appears that in 1851, for example, four brothers were running three separate businesses in Cambridge within spitting distance of one another...
William and Octavius JOHNSON were running the tailors at 51, Sidney St, aforesaid...
Right next door brother James JOHNSON was running a bookshop at 50, Sidney Street...
And just around the corner brother Richard JOHNSON was running a grocery at 29, Market Hill.
A bit of a monopoly, then, on what you wore, what you read, and what you had to eat in mid-19thC Cambridge...
By 1871 Richard had retired to Henley, and brother William to a village south of Cambridge. Not quite sure yet what happened to James, but business must have boomed for the family...
keith
Hello Keith
Please can you have a look at this link below and see if it connects up
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,335860.0.html
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bedfordshire boy
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Other than the name Johnson what grounds do you have for thinking there's a link with your Hunts family?
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukBeds: Cople: Luke/Spencer Everton: Hale Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey Potton: Merrill Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt Hunts: Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn Cambs: Bourn: Bowd Eltisley: Medlock Graveley: Ford/Revell |
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Keith Sherwood
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Hi, Sheffieldposh (and David, hi again!),
Since I last posted on here, I've spent a great deal of time up the Cambs County Record Office looking at JOHNSON wills in the Consistory Court of Ely lists, amongst other things.
Have definitely established that the John JOHNSON who married Susannah BRAYSHER at Holy Trinity, Cambridge in 1797 was the individual born to William and Elizabeth (nee DISBROW) JOHNSON in 1755 in Over.
He was apprenticed to a William BICHENO, glover and breeches maker of Over in 1767, and sometime thereafter came to Cambridge - he was the only one of that JOHNSON generation to leave farming and make a living out of the land.
His three brothers Richard (d.1812), William (d.1829) and James (d.1831) were all farmers and left wills.
The elder William, their father, was born in Longstanton in 1729, and moved to Over when he married in 1749...
Before that, his father William, born 1700 and died 1752, and his grandfather, also William, born some time pre-1680 and died 1741. All three generations of William left wills and they lived in Longstanton.
Haven't found William, born pre-1680 yet - his birth or baptism or marriage circa 1693, I mean - but it's possible nearby Willingham, and nonconformist entries might hold the clue.
It's entirely within reason that these JOHNSON's may be connected to yours in some way back in the 17thC, but not that closely in the 18thC and 19thC perhaps...
Very best wishes,
keith
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pamb
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Hello Keith
I'm seeking information on the family Martin Johnson ( ch 2/4/1728 Longstanton) brother of your William (ch 11/11/1729) from Longstanton who married Elizabeth Butler of Swavesey 9/2/1747.
The children of Martin and Elizabeth christened at Longstanton, were Martin Johnson ch 1750, William ch 1752, Elizabeth ch 1755, James ch 1757.
I'm attempting to trace the origins of two of my 6x Great grandfathers, William Johnson and Martin Johnson.
William's daughter Elizabeth born Tydd St Mary Lincolnshire 1783, married at Tydd St Mary 1804 to Martin Johnson, the son of Martin Johnson Market gardener of Plumstead Kent. Martin and Elizabeth moved to Plumstead Kent around 1808.
William Johnson of Tydd St Mary died in 1805, in his will he mentions a brother Martin Johnson unfortunately William fails to mention where his brother lives.
Martin Johnson Sr of Plumstead Kent died in 1821 in his will he mentions a sister Elizabeth who is the wife of Thomas Smith Yeoman of Pidley Huntingdonshire, and a nephew William Johnson of Tydd St Mary, Lincolnshire.
William Johnson Sr of Tydd St Mary had a son William who was living at Tydd St Mary in 1821. William Johnson (the son) married Catherine Coe one of their sons was Eleazer or Eleazar Johnson, who was a printer and also had a bookshop in Wisbech Cambridgeshire.
It would appear that Elizabeth Johnson and Martin Johnson may have been first cousins. That being the case I'm looking for a family that contains siblings, Martin, Elizabeth and William. Hence my interest in the Johnson family of Longstanton, which is also close to Pidley.
I'm wondering if in the course of your research you have come across the family of your William Johnson's (1729) brother Martin (1728) and if you may have any knowledge of his children and where they may have moved, married or died.
Regards
Pam
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Cordery of Buckinghamshire, Ingram, Mears Surrey, London of Warwickshire, Johnson St Marys Tydd Lincolnshire, Warden, Oakley of Hertfordshire, Sheelah, Bratten, Jordan Of Kent, Shearstone, Sheerston, Russ of Somersetshire, Woods of Malpas Cheshire, Davies of Malpas Cheshire, Oakes of Staffordshire, Newark, Rotherham, Dayns, Daines, Kirk, Wicks, all of Warwickshire
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Keith Sherwood
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Hi, Pam,
Have just posted a long reply on here, nearly finished it - and then my screen went a blank pink colour, infuriating!
So, here goes again, and fingers crossed this time...
Firstly, very exciting that we're researching the same family, and all these records come from transcripts of the Longstanton PR's at the Cambs County Record Office. These are the generation of children born to William JOHNSON b. 1700 d. 1752 (left a will) and Hannah ONSLOW, who married in 1724, but I seem to have temporarily mislaid the wedding details:
Your Martin JOHNSON b.1728; William b. 1729 d. 1773 (left a will); Hannah born and buried 1730; Richard b. 1731 d. 1759 maltster (left a will); another Hannah b. 1732 d. 1740; Jonathan born and buried 1740; James b. 1736 d. 1758 miller (left a will)
I'm feeling nervous, so I'm going to post this, then continue...
keith
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Keith Sherwood
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Right, that's safely there...Now here is the generation of JOHNSON's that includes William JOHNSON, b.1700 d.1752. Their parents are a William JOHNSON b. pre-1675 d. 1741 (left a will) and an Elizabeth. They must have married somewhere prior to 1694, but I have so far been unable to find either a location or exact date.
Interestingly too, this William is referred to in the Longstanton PR's as "commonly" or "usually" called "Martin". In his will of 1741 there is not the slightest mention of him being called "Martin", only William, so it's all a bit bizarre, and you may have seen another thread I started on Rootschat to see whether anyone might come up with an explanation. Anyway, their children:
Elizabeth b. 1694 (married a Thomas PIKE); Mary born and buried 1696; Martin b. 1697; William b. 1700 d. 1752; Richard b. 1703 d. 1720; Mary b. 1705 d. 1708; John b. 1709 d. 1710.
That's all I know so far, hope it helps. Very interesting to learn for the first time about your descent from this Longstanton family. Perhaps we should PM one another with any other details...
Regards,
keith
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pamb
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Hello Keith
Thank you very much you may have helped heaps. I shall send a PM so that we can exchange our findings.
Regards
Pam
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Cordery of Buckinghamshire, Ingram, Mears Surrey, London of Warwickshire, Johnson St Marys Tydd Lincolnshire, Warden, Oakley of Hertfordshire, Sheelah, Bratten, Jordan Of Kent, Shearstone, Sheerston, Russ of Somersetshire, Woods of Malpas Cheshire, Davies of Malpas Cheshire, Oakes of Staffordshire, Newark, Rotherham, Dayns, Daines, Kirk, Wicks, all of Warwickshire
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Keith Sherwood
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Glad to hear that, Pam,
I've recently discovered that most of the JOHNSON family who stemmed from John JOHNSON b. 1755 in Over, and who lived and traded in Cambridge - and were Baptists - are buried in the Histon Rd, Cambridge Cemetery, which was a Nonconformist burial ground from 1843. Even a Richard JOHNSON, who retired to live in Newbury, was brought back there when he died in 1881.
I'm actually off to Over this afternoon to have a look at the cemetery there - it was apparently given to the parish (?) by James JOHNSON in 1867; he was the last of this particular branch of JOHNSON's who farmed in Longstanton, and then in Over, and I'm waiting for his 1870 will to arrive through the post...
Regards,
keith
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