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Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« on: Monday 24 March 08 18:09 GMT (UK) »

Hello, I am currently doing my family tree, I have so far just over 400 family members dating back to early 1600's. However I am stuck on my mother's father's side. My whole family are from Bournemouth, Dorset and the family I am looking for have been in Dorset for generations.

My mother is Patricia Ann Howells nee Plowman, 1949 who was daughter to Ruby Plowman nee Tideswell 1924 - 2000 and Kenneth John Plowman 1923 - 1992. I know Ken had a sister called Rose (now surname is Lloyd).
I haven't got far, I know their father was called Harold Plowman but not further and I would appreciate any detail/information for me to put in my tree. All I know is that Harold's wife's maiden name was Cutler.

I would be grateful for any help provided as being 17 I have no idea where to start for a family so difficult!

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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:22 GMT (UK) »

Hi Lorraine

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I haven't got far, I know their father was called Harold Plowman

The only Harold Plowman from Dorset on the 1901 is this chap

1901 for Marnhull.  All b Marnhull except William

William Plowman 52  shopkeeper b ?Hammon
S F Plowman 52  wife 
W H Plowman 31 
Howard J Plowman 20 
Harold W Plowman 18 
Annie Ayles 34  niece
Louisa Ayles 25  niece
Lennard Gardner 21  lodger

 
A copy of the Plowman/Cutler marriage cert will give you Harold Plowman's fathers name to ensure you are on the right track with the census info above
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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:25 GMT (UK) »

Hello,
Thank you for replying so quickly, I have just had a look at my grandmother's and grandad's marriage certificate and it has both their fathers on it. However I have found that it is Henry Harold Plowman - is there any record of this?
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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Just to confirm - is this the Kenneth Plowman/Ruby Tideswell marriage cert?
Are you saying that Kenneth's father wasn't Harold - he was Henry Harold?

What was the occupation shown for Henry Harold Plowman on that cert and is he shown as deceased?
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:35 GMT (UK) »

i found this birth

Henry Harold Plowman Q1 1891 Tunbridge 2a 735
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:36 GMT (UK) »

Yes it was my mistake, he is Henry Harold Plowman. On the marriage certificate of my grandparents he is alive (although deceased now) and worked as a mechanic.

I have just looked at my grandad's birth certificate and it has no name on it but is entry 127 of book 56 - whatever that means?

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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:49 GMT (UK) »

The reference for Henry Harold Plowmans marriage to Dora M Culter is:

March Q 1912 Wimborne, Dorset
Vol 5a page 369
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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:51 GMT (UK) »

The Henry Harold Plowman born 191 is here in 1901:~

RG13 1039 97 14
Benellen Crank House
Branksome Wood Road Bournemouth
Henry T Plowman head 46 mar. coachman worker b. Blandford dorset
Elizabeth 50    wife b. Wilts mere
Alice E 21  dau. single tailoress b. Somerset West .....
Rose E 18  dau. dressmaker b. do.
Henry H 10 son  b. Pembury


 
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:51 GMT (UK) »

I have just looked at my grandad's birth certificate and it has no name on it but is entry 127 of book 56 - whatever that means?



that will be the reference number you need when ordering the cert from the GRO i think you were looking at the Birth Index rather than the cert itself.
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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #9 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:52 GMT (UK) »

Ahhh thank you, I now have a name for my great grandmother for my tree. This might be able to give me more on the tree.

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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #10 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:53 GMT (UK) »

seems they had more children than just Kenneth &  Rose:~

PLOWMAN Harold G   mmn.  Cutler   Christchurch.2b   1117   Q2   1915                 
   
PLOWMAN Henry A    mmn. Cutler   Christchurch.2b   1227   Q2   1912                 
   
PLOWMAN Montague J    mmn. Cutler   Christchurch.2b   1021   Q4   1916   
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SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 years
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
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Tomorrow is too late

Holman - Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj - Kiev Ukraine, Bentley - Bradford/Leicester, Taylor - Kent/Sussex, Punnett - Sussex, Richards - Leicester, Vinton - Cornwall, Beer - Devon
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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #11 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:55 GMT (UK) »

sadly there is also this death:~

PLOWMAN Montague J  aged 2  Christchurch.2b  1563  Q4  1918 
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Spinal Muscular Atrophy (SMA) is a neuromuscular condition causing weakness of the muscles.
SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 years
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
JTSMA.ORG.UK  FSMA.ORG  PROJECTCURESMA.ORG

Tomorrow is too late

Holman - Cornwall, Wojciechowskyj - Kiev Ukraine, Bentley - Bradford/Leicester, Taylor - Kent/Sussex, Punnett - Sussex, Richards - Leicester, Vinton - Cornwall, Beer - Devon
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« Reply #12 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:57 GMT (UK) »

My mother has just told me that Kenneth and Rose had other siblings names Arthur, George and Robert. So I don't know about those ones you just provided for me Toni.

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Re: Plowman - Census look up !!!help!!!
« Reply #13 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:58 GMT (UK) »

1901 Census Bournemouth
RG13/1039 fol97 pg14

Henry T Plowman    H  1855  Blandford, Dorset
Elizabeth                W  1851  Mere, Wiltshire
Alice E                     D   1880  West Coker, Somerset
Rose E                    D   1883  West Coker, Somerset
Henry H                  S    1891  Pembury, Kent
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« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 March 08 18:59 GMT (UK) »

and in 1891

RG12/683 Folio 115 Page 5
High Street Pembury Kent

Henry T Plowman 36 Coachman Domestic Groom Dorset Blandford
Elizabeth 40 Wilts Mere
Alice 11 Scholar Somerset West Coker
Rose 8 Scholar   "          "
Harold 2mo Kent Pembury

ps. George was probably Harold George and Arthur was probably Henry Arthur so I think Toni has the right family....
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