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Topic: Randal Churton Harries, Hamilton Ontario 1905 (Read 903 times)
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SamnJoan
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Can anyone help with information about Randal Churton Harries please. Born in Liscard, Cheshire, England 18/06/1878, he was sent to Hamilton, Ontario in disgrace in 1905 - according to the family bible. The bible also states that he joined the army (Canadian or British?) in 1916 and returned 1919. Not sure where he returned to and there is no information after that. Did he remain in Canada, or did he return to England?
His father William James Harries (b03/10/1847 Toxteth Park, Liverpool, England) went to visit him soon after and died in Hamilton 23/08/1906. I believe he is buried in Hamilton cemetery.
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SamnJoan
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Thanks Karen.
Randal had two sisters: Amy Buckley Harries and Dorothy Gibson Harries. Amy was the eldest, so I presume she was the one he listed.
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Ken MacLean
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Joan,
He joined the 173rd Battalion (Highlanders) at Hamilton, Ontario 29 February 1916.
Here is the link to his attestation paper at Library and Archives Canada:
http://tinyurl.com/2lzpuf
You may wish to obtain a copy of his service record. There is a link directly above the attestation paper icons on the above page providing instructions for ordering (paper copy only). Delivery takes 4-5 weeks and will cost approx. $30.00 CDN.
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Janice M
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He is buried in Hamilton.
HARRIES Randall
Cemetery: Woodland
County: Wentworth
Township: Flamborough East
Stone Ref: CEM331-2
Hamilton Public Library
http://www.myhamilton.ca/myhamilton/LibraryServices/Genealogy/
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Janice M
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Couldn't find Randall in the 1922 Directory, but I did find an Henry Harries in Hamilton. Maybe this is who Randall was sent to stay with?
Vernon's city of Hamilton directory (1922)
http://www.archive.org/details/vernonhamilton00vernuoft
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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Janice M
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He was a witness at a wedding in 1916.
David KILGOUR
Age: 22
Occupation: lieutenant H.M.S.
Birthplace: Glasgow Scotland
Residence: Hamilton
Son of: William Sutherland KILGOUR & Nellie Inglis EDWARDS
married
Ada Evelyn SCOTT
Age: 18
Birthplace: Edinburgh Scotland
Residence: Hamilton
Daughter of: Robert Glen SCOTT & Lydia CAMPBELL
witness: Randall HARRIES of 281 John St.
& Victoria CORDNER of 19 Case St.,
Date of Marriage: 27 Jan 1916 at Hamilton
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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Hi Janice and ken67
This is fascinating, thankyou both so much. I love the description of Randal on the back of the Attestation Paper. It really brings him to life! Interesting that he spells Randal with two L's, when it was only one originally.
Randal's father had a younger brother Henry Thomas Harries b1861 in Liverpool, England, but I haven't traced him yet. Maybe he was the Henry that Randal stayed with and he had already gone to Canada , as you suggest Janice. I haven't managed to see the Vernon's city directory yet, as one of their interal links is down at the moment.
I'm wondering if Randal is buried in the same cemetry as his father William James Harries who died in 1906.
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Janice M
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Death of Randall's father
William James Harries
Date of Death: August 23rd, 1906
Age at death: 57 years
Place of Death: Hamilton, Wentworth, Ontario
Estimated Birth Year: 1849
Birthplace: England
Married
HARRIES Alice Maud
Wentworth County
Barton
Hamilton Cemetery
HARRIES H. Wyndham
Wentworth County
Barton
Hamilton Cemetery
Harries Randall
Wentworth County
East Flamborough
Woodland Cemetery
HARRIES Viola
Wentworth County
Flamborough West
Grove
Harries Zelma
Wentworth County
Barton
Ohev Zedeck Cemetery
I haven't found William yet, but here is a list of cemeteries in Wentworth County
http://tinyurl.com/23z58b
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Lanxon, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie
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Hi Janice and Kiddo
Thanks for all your information. Janice, I have found William James Harries' grave!
Harries, William James
Temiskaming County,
Evantural,
Englehart Town Cemetery,
Ref: TMK-
Is it part of Hamilton?
Thanks for Randall's cemetery, but I can't seem to find a date of death, or whether he ever married. He seems to just disappear until his grave appears!
I don't recognise any of the other Harries you found - not family names as far as I know, but maybe they were Randall's children??
Kiddo, thanks for the offer of the photo of Randall's grave. That would be great when you next visit there. As far as I know the ref. is: HM-331-2 at Woodland Cemetery. Is that the plot no. do you think?
Joan
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