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Major In Army Francis Frederill
« on: Monday 24 March 08 20:57 GMT (UK) »

This is a long shot. 

Maria Orrom gave birth to a son in 1839/1840 - Francis Frederill Orrom, when he married in 1859 to Caroline Prall at Tonbridge Parish Church he states that his father was a Francis FREDRELL Major in the Army?

Is there any way he could be tracked down, I doubt it somehow, but thought someone may be able to advise me?

Francis was bought up by William Nightingale, shoemaker, who Maria married in 1840
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 March 08 21:43 GMT (UK) »

The surname doesn't seem to exist in the civil registration index.

There is a baptism for a Francis Orram in Tonbridge parish registers (I am looking at a transcript of the Bishop's Transcripts not a transcript of the register itself, so the mother's name may be a mistake).

ORRAM, Francis Iredale
Christening Date:28 May 1839 Tonbridge, Kent
Mother:   Sarah ORRAM

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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 March 08 17:41 GMT (UK) »

Thank you for that information. 

It was suggested too me that the surname perhaps should read Frederick, but perhaps we were not meant to make a connection!
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KENT - Nightingale, Orrom, Prall,
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 March 08 19:22 GMT (UK) »

Tonbridge poor law records may supply further information if maintenance was sought for the baby.

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Valda
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 March 08 19:37 GMT (UK) »

Yes that was my thought, when I can get down to the area.

Thanking you.
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KENT - Nightingale, Orrom, Prall,
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NORTHANTS - Worboys, Evans,
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 26 March 08 09:07 GMT (UK) »

Hello Annette

I have the Poor law Records for mid Kent (includes Tonbridge).
Nothing for Orram or Oram I am afraid. 

Barbara
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 26 March 08 09:33 GMT (UK) »

Part of this story can be proved or disproved very easily indeed by checking the Army Lists.
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 26 March 08 17:59 GMT (UK) »

Could you advise me of how and where I look at the Army lists?  Anything available on line?
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KENT - Nightingale, Orrom, Prall,
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 26 March 08 19:28 GMT (UK) »

If I need the Army Lists, I use the National Archives or the Society of Genealogists, if they have the period I want, so I'm not up to date about what's online. However I believe The Genealogist has the 1842 and the 1863 available. Others can be bought on CD from various suppliers.
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 March 08 20:15 GMT (UK) »

Thank you for your help I am grateful, will check the source suggested.
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CAMBS - Warboys, Worboys.
HERTS - Ashby, Eames, Elliott, Wellings.
STAFFS - Bate, Purslow, Cresswell.
KENT - Nightingale, Orrom, Prall,
SUSSEX - Lawrence/Laurence
NORTHANTS - Worboys, Evans,
WORCS & STAFFS - Oakes, Northall, Knight, Mills,
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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 March 08 08:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi Annette

We wouldn't normally suggest "duplicate" postings on Rootschat but, in this instance, I would suggest another posting on the armed forces board just in case somebody has access to resources which may help prove or disprove something about "Major" Francis ......... .  Some of the frequenters there don't venture as far as all the county boards Wink

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,300.0.html

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Re: Major In Army Francis Frederill
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 March 08 17:49 GMT (UK) »

Thank you, that is very helpful!
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LONDON - Lewis, Bone, Ashby, Balch, Gayler, Williams, Dolt, Gudgeon, Veale.
CAMBS - Warboys, Worboys.
HERTS - Ashby, Eames, Elliott, Wellings.
STAFFS - Bate, Purslow, Cresswell.
KENT - Nightingale, Orrom, Prall,
SUSSEX - Lawrence/Laurence
NORTHANTS - Worboys, Evans,
WORCS & STAFFS - Oakes, Northall, Knight, Mills,
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