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An65
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Well now Im looking for any info on William Tansey supposedly born cir 1806 Wales, but quite possibly anywhere ..........
He married Esther Gray bapt 1812 Outwell Cam d/o Thomas Gray & Susannah Faben. Esther was sister to John Budd (Jack) Gray and Piramus Gray.
Another reference to the Tansey family comes in the form of Joyce/Jessie Tansey who married George Boyling/Boylen/Boiling.
Im pretty sure she appears on the 1851 census at Spridlington as Mary Boylen, with her daughter by George, Ellen Gray (Really Salome Ellen bapt 1823 Scampton Lin)
For sure, George Boyling was buried at Nettleham Lincs, in 1873, and Joyce was buried the same place in 1885.
Looking at the IGI - a Charlotte Tansey was baptised in Burslem Stf in 1808, and I cant help but wonder if this is her under another alias. If so, she was daughter of William and Charlotte. Her brother would have been William Tansey baptised 17.02.1811 Frisby Leic. He would correspond with the William who married Esther Gray.
Does anyone know anything about the Boylings and Tanseys/Tanzys, and can shed any light on this one? Please?
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ROMANYGENES
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Ann think Eric mentioned that :Some reports have Trinity Boswell as the mother of lumi she did later partner George) but from Winstedts notes and from the baptism ;Salome Ellen Boylin dau of George Boyling and Joyce,further info fro Eric who said that a Jane Tanzy who he suspects is a sister of Joyce Tanzy , married Tom Boswell.
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Forgot to mention :-
Zachariah Boswell married Sarah Boiling/Boyling aka Boswell (according to the Geneology of the Boswells) however it also states that Sarah Boyling's father is George Boyling (read Boswell) and Trinity Boswell. I have found an IGI entry which says her parents are Caesar Boswell and Sarah ??
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An65
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Thx Sue, was aware of the suposed parentage of Salome Ellen, (Lumi Ellen) - but seen the IGI and its a deffo that its Joyce Tansey.
Am really hoping to nail this one 
Am aware of Zachariah Boswell and Sarah Boyling marriage, they are direct ancestors of one of my far-flung romany rellies!
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Cesear Boyling married:
1) Mary Royston at Boston in 1768, by whom there was Samuel Thomas and Ambrose.
2) Sarah Smith at 1780 Wrawby by Brigg, by whom there was John and Sarah.
Sarah (b.cir 1784 Spalding) married Zachariah Boswell in 1809 in Kirton In Lindsey.
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I have some old notes somewhere?? but where??LOL but i know i found one boyling and he was under the boswell name or vice versa? and i emailed Bob as he never had the record but for the life of me cant remember but will try and hook my old notes out.
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Just found this note i made at time :=
n Robert Dawsons *Book of Boswell*he disputes the Jgls notes that"appys mother as Trinity Boswell
he says this is a confusion for his sister Trinity,there is no reason to disbelieve Phillis account as in a
removal order for 21 july 1821 she was charged for vagrancy and put into the house of correction and county gaol at Louth Lincs.On the same day Absalom and his wife Mary ,Elias his son and Trinity his daughter and then removed to his place of birth Drinkston Leicester.To confuse things more according to Oral tradition from the jgls it has Absalom as son of Anselo and this is confirmed by correspondence
between Henry Sherriff (aka Monty,SherriffBoswell,and Henry Boswell)who was Absaloms great grandson.This is recorded in the book edited by Robert Dawson and published as "Henry Drybread" The Richard Wade papers" published in 2001.Robert Dawson also says that if Absalom had Clara by Rebecca Clayton he would be 65?unless another Absalom ,I have found a Absalom Boyling age b 1816 lincs in the 1861 Census with wife Rebecca b 1818 and with them are 4 of his children and 3 Smith grandchildren
Is this the son of AbsalomBoswell i Now realise that Absalom is thought t be the son of Anselo Boswell and not Daniel Boswell .
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George and Trenit or Joyce (no distinction made here simply issue of George) according to my notes include:
Sarah 1830 Glentham Lin
Absalom 1820 Swaby/Scrooby? Lin married Rebecca
Stephen 1815-18 Worksop Nott/Lin
Elizabeth 1818 Clarboro Nott
George 1826 Babworth Nott
Salome Ellen 1823 Scampton Lin
Of Which:
Absalom & Rebecca:
Henry 1850 Leic
Lemernaylor 1848 Ashby De La Zouch
Matthew 1854 Breedon LEI
Treanetter or Trinity Codnor or Basford
Maria b.cir 1841 Lemonton Rut married ? Smith
Salome Ellen had:
Elias or Eli b.1840-5 Nettleham Lin married Sarah A.
Drusilla b.cir 1845 Ingham Lin married Walter Smith (Ran off)
Lucy b.cir 1850 Sheffield
Joycey b.cir 1858 Bradford married Heenan Herring
Esther b.cir 1855 Barnsley Yks or Bardney Lin?
Mary A b.cir 1864 Wath Yk married Thomas Humberstone.
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The Boylings seem elusive thats for sure its funny whilst looking at something else I came across the marriage for Angereena Boyling to Fred Wilsher Dec 1914 at Doncaster. Do you think it was aka Boswell Name the Boylings I mean?
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Im not sure to be honest. I reserve judgement.
What I do think is that Wilsher and Wilshaw are the same - and there are several refs to Wilshaws. One of those is A Wilshaw marrying into Piramus Grays family, which has been proven otherwise. Another family I wouldnt mind knowing more about....
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Well a chap i email is a Wilsher and I know they are wed into the Grays/Winters/Holmes and I think Boswells and also Smith as one of his line is with some Smiths in a census as down as cousins ,but the Wilshers;and all spellings !! seem to habe been in Yorkshire and then they seem to end up in Nottingham Newark area but before then some were from Scotland as his grt granny was Scottish which is where I imagine they wed into the Grays/
Winter and kennedys but they have been a nightmare finder as the surnames spelt so many different ways, as usual !!
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While I was looking for a lady found this Census and these are my notes:-
Note all the Winters i saw seemed to be gorga unless it was because he wed Matilda Gray?and took to the life.
1861*Town: Huddersfield CountyYorkshire.
No Gypsies near by?
1861*Town: Huddersfield Yorkshire
Hanah Winter 33 hd widow b Huddersfield
James William Winter 10 school boy b Huddersfield
Louisa Gertrude Winter1 b Huddersfield
Tom Winter 5 school boy b Huddersfield
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1901 CENSUS*Ince in Makerfield Lancashire.(several families all in caravans and hawkers etc)
Elias Winters 3 bInce, Lancashire
Matilda Winters 26 (Nee Heron)b Halifax, Yorkshire
Maud J Winters1 b Ince, Lancashire
Thomas Winters 43 b Huddersfield, Yorkshire Hawker of carpets.
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Maria Dale 34 b Ireland b Leigh Lancashire.
William Dale 45 earthenware dealer
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Edward Bentley 29 scissors cutler/grinder
Georgina Bentley 23 hawker lace and pegs b Wales Flintshire
Rhoda Bentley 5 b Ince, Lancashire
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Ann J Johnson 60 widow hd b Manchester,
Leno Johnson 40 dau b Manchester,
Annie "" "" 23 dau b Manchester,
John H Sutton 30 son in law b Wigan, lab
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Ann Frith 54 widow b Wigan, Lancashire
Richard Frith15 b Hindley, Lancashire coal worker underground
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Angelina Boswell 19 wife b Newcastle, Staffordshire
Samson Boswell 22 hd b Angelina Boswell 19 Horse dealer
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Cinderella Boswell10 dau b Hindley, Lancashire
Edicar Boswell14 son b Knutsford, Cheshire
Liar Boswell17 son b Manchester, Lancashire
Mernfield Boswell 21 son b Stockport, Cheshire
Lea Lovel 43 hd female b Bamfurlong, Lancashire
Roda Lovel 22 niece b Barnsley, Yorkshire
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Clara Boswell 26 wife b Northzitch, Cheshire(found marriage 1895 Clara Bradburn)Blackburn Lancashire
Doria Boswell 5 b Salford, Lancashire
Noah R Boswell 26 hd b Wilmslow, Cheshire
Pheonix Boswell 2 son b Ince, Lancashire
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William Cartwright 33 hd b Lowton, Lancashire
Susannah Cartwright wife23 b Winslow, Cheshire
Noah Cartwright 2 months b Ince, Lancashire
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Kinsey Kelshaw 40 hd b Cheshire, England Horse dealer
Matilda Kelshaw wife 46 b Lincoln, Lincolnshire
Edna Kelshaw 5 dau b Stockport, Lancashire
Lena Kelshaw 17 dau b Stockport, Lancashire
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John Rogerson 25 hd b Stockport, Lancashire Horse dealer
Andrew Rogerson 2 months b Stockport, Lancashire
Evelyne Rogerson 4 dau b Stockport, Lancashire
Fewshaw Rogerson 22 wife b Walsall, Staffordshire
James Rogerson 2 son b Stockport, Lancashire
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You probably already know that Richard Winter wed Cinderella Heron dau of Fauk Gray and polly Elliot !your the expert on the Grays !! I just make notes if they cross into my lines etc.
I have donr the Herons as I was doing the Hearns and some are the same family abeit ,one Rais would record them as Heron and Others Hearn !drove me crazy when I first started doing the Hearns!
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Gipsies Tent Tittesworth Staffordshire 1861
James Boswell Clothes Peg Mkr 1791 Nottinghamshire
Rhuderham Boswell Son c.p.m. 1821 Derbyshire
Happy Boswell Son c.p.m. 1838 Nottinghamshire
Isiah Boswell c.p.m. 1839 Staffs
Seliphean Boswell Son c.p.m. Staffs
Urda Boswell daughter in law c.p.m. 1838 Warwickshire
Bidda Boswell daughter in law c.p.m. 1842 Staffs
Dolor Boswell daughter in law c.p.m. 1811 Staffs
Jerusalem Boswell daughter c.p.m. 1848 Staffs
Anorah Boswell Gdtr c.p.m. 1855 Staffs
Sarah Boswell Gdtr c.p.m. 1853 Staffs
Matilda Boswell Gdtr 1858 Staffs
Sampson Boswell Gson 1859 Staffs
Rabia Boswell Gson 1856 Staffs
Jane Boswell Gdtr 1855 Staffs
Hoserygray Boswell Gson 1860 Staffs
Oh yes, I done the Grays to death.
Fowk Heron married Polly Elliot he was bapt 1794 s/o Richd Margt
and had Elijah, Master and Swallow, of which at least the last 2 were suposed to be transported.
He also had:
Miseretta/Miseta/Morette b.cir 1823 married Eldred Pierce aka Winter aka Smith (direct family ancestor)
Tienna/Trinity/Trenity married Stephen Pierce (bro) born cir 1820 Westboro Lin, she died 1853 Grainthorpe, Linc, supposedly as a result of a dog bite.
And Cinderella b.cir 1830 Billinghay Lin, married Richard Winter...
of which this much is known:
she died in 1888 at Caistor Dist Lin, and may also be known as Sophia - or maybe not! Maybe its a second wife, and perhaps not related at all:
Issue:
Emily 1866 Grasby
Harriet 1869 Manton
Esther married John Pierce
Alice 1872 Castor
Katie 1874 Wrawby.
This part the family reasonably well doc..... its further back I need. :S
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Little London, Melton Mowbray Leic 1871
Appeli Smith 22 Brushmaker Skillington Leic
Hamardine Smith 20 wife Leicester Leic
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Byrewenley Smith wid 51 Hawker Waltham Leic
Samuel Smith 16 son Labourer, Harston Leic
Elizabeth Smith 14 dtr Gerton Lin
Fanny Smith 12 dtr Eaton Leic
Eliza Smith 6 dtr Melton Leic
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Synamenta Smith 42 wid Hawker Spilsby Lin
Sophia Smith 11 Willoughby Leic
Nathaniel Smith 4 Twyford leic
Nathaniel Smith 24 boarder, unmarried, deaf n dumb. Langham Rut
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Thomas Smith 27 Labourer Haston Leic
Eliza Smith 26 Woolsthorpe Leic
Thomas Smith 6 Melton Leic
Cinimenta Smith 4 Derby Dbys
Sarah Smith 2 Melton Leic
Bertrice Smith 2months Melton Leic
Few doors away
Sarah Winters 48 Hawker Boston Lin
Ann Winters 11 Melton Leic
Ellen Winters 8 Notts
William Winters 2 Melton Leic
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