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Topic: Albert & Rose Walker and Family. Would love some help, Please? (Read 272 times)
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1st Generation
1. Albert Edward William Walker was born in 1869 in Worcester and died on an unknown date. He married Rose ?. Rose was born in 1866 in Worcseter and died on an unknown date.
Children of Albert Edward William Walker and Rose ?
i. 2. Florence Walker was born on Jan. 12, 1893 in Worcester and died on Jan. 1, 1985 in Coventry - Best i could get ?.
ii. 3. Alice Walker.
iii. 4. Arthur Walker.
iv. 5. Lilly Walker.
v. 6. William Walker.
2nd Generation (Children)
2. Florence Walker was born on Jan. 12, 1893 in Worcester and died on Jan. 1, 1985 in Coventry - Best i could get ?. She married Maurice Barnett Englander on Oct. 29, 1914 in Birmingham. Maurice Barnett, son of Barnett (Bernhard) Englander and Bertha Florence Rosianski, was born in 1892 in Gellerton's yard, West Gate, Bradford, West Yorkshire. and died in Birmingham.
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You can obtain UK birth certs via
www.gro.gov.uk
where I think they still cost £7 each.
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Welcome to Rootschat, Englander 
The order of the children (ages/birthplaces as given in 1901) was:
Lilly 13 b Birmingham
Alice 11 b Worcester
Florence 9 b Worcester
William 7 b Birmingham
Arthur 2 b Birmingham
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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I'm afraid I don't see a death of a Florence Englander in the England & Wales Death Index 1984-2005. Did Florence die under another name?
Anna
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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From there, 1871 shows dad's name as Henry:
1871
RG10/3051 147 12
St Helen, Worcester
33 Friar Street
Henry Walker, head, 46, Dairy Man Master, b. Staffordshire Bruff Hall? (wonder if this should read Brierley Hill!)
Anne, wife, 39, b. Worcestershire Evesham
John, son, 19, Dairy Man, b. Worcester
Henry, son, 17, Dairy Man, b. Worcester
William, son, 15, Dairy Man, b. Staffordshire
Richard, son, 13, scholar, b. Staffordshire
Septimus, son, 11, scholar, b. Staffordshire
Arthur, son, 8, scholar, b. Worcester
Albert, son, 4, scholar, b. Worcester
Walter, son, 1, b. Worcester
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"My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness" Desire and hunger is the fire I breathe Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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10 years earlier ...
1861
RG9/1996 79 6
Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Bilston Road
Henry Walker, head, 35, Railway Pointsman, b. Staffordshire Bilston
Ann, wife, 30, b. Worcestershire Evesham
John, son, 9, scholar, b. Worcester
Henry Edwin, son, 7, scholar, b. Worcester
Wm Marshall, son, 5, scholar, b. Stafford Brierley Hill
Richard, son, 3, scholar, b. Staffordshire Wolverhampton
I'm unable to ID Henry in 1851, or a definite marriage for him and Ann. You may have to purchase the birth cert for one of their children to discover Ann's maiden name.
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OK, who are we following now? The Englanders? I'm afraid this is going to be short given their birth places
1901
RG13/3169 27 8
Nottingham
32 Snemton? Street
3 rooms occupied
Barnett Englander, head, 35, Tailor, b. Germany (German Subject)
Bertha, wife, 28, b. Germany (German Subject)
Morris, son, 8, b. Bradford Yorks
Minnie, dau, 6, b. Nottingham
The 1891 census shows Bernhard in Salford Lancashire, boarding with a family named Frieze (dad Morris Frieze a Tailor born Germany). Birth place plain 'Germany' again 
Mmmm. There's a marriage in March quarter 1893, Bradford 9b 188, for a Bernard Englander but the possible brides are Martha Elizabeth Firth or Betsy Rosenberg 
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She married Maurice Barnett Englander on Oct. 29, 1914 in Birmingham. Maurice Barnett, son of Barnett (Bernhard) Englander and Bertha Florence Rosianski, was born in 1892 in Gellerton's yard, West Gate, Bradford, West Yorkshire. and died in Birmingham.
The National Archives Documents Online site has a Royal Navy service record for a Maurice Englander born Bradford 4 Dec 1891 - downloadable for £3.50:
http://tinyurl.com/2xy5da
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Rosamund Bagshaw ...
birth registration: Rosamond Bagshaw - Dec quarter 1863 - Droitwich 6c 358
1871
RG10/3050 8 9
St Martin, Worcester
7 New Street
Arthur Bagshaw, head of family lodger, 62, retired (or formerly) farmer, b. Worcestershire Crowle
Charlotte, wife, 45, b. Worcestershire Stoke
Sarah, dau, 14, scholar, b. Crowle
Alice, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
Rose, dau, 7, scholar, b. do.
Her family 10 years earlier:
1861
RG9/2108 36 23
Crowle, Worcestershire
Lower Crowle
Arthur Bagshaw, head, 50, Assistant to his father in Farm, b. Huddington
Charlotte, wife, 34, b. Stoke Bliss Herefordshire
Charlotte, dau, 15, b. Crowle
John, son, 11, b. do.
Lucy, dau, 6, b. do.
Sarah, dau, 4, b. do.
Alice m, dau, 4 mo, b. do.
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