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Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« on: Thursday 27 March 08 10:01 GMT (UK) »

Sackfield Asplin immigrated to South Australia with his wife Mary died at sea.  I was wondering if anyone can look up her surname?

Sackfield would have been born abt 1813 in Stretham or Over,  and may have been married perhaps in Littleport? Cambridge.

Sackfield's parents may have been Henry Asplin and Elizabeth Murfitt

Sackfield and Mary had two children when they came out

Alice aged 13 in 1850

Elizabeth who was an infant in 1850

Thank you for any help you can give me.   Smiley

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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 March 08 10:20 GMT (UK) »


Hi Gaynor

Nor sure whether this is going to help much  Huh

The only marriage I can see on bmd is for an Isaac Sackfield Asplin in Q3. 1842 in Ely.  Vol 14 Pg. 108
There are three Mary's on the page   Cry   Mary Crabb,  Mary Padget  and Mary Rogers.

Having said that - if Alice was 13 years old in 1850, that marriage is probably too late  Cry   However, the name is unusual so if not yours, maybe a relative ?
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 March 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »

If you check the baptism index on the Cambs FHS site at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html you'll find his baptism

In 1841 enumerated as Sackful Aspland he was living in Littleport age 25 ag lab in the same household as Mary Rogers 20 and Ann Rogers 2, all born in Cambs

This may be the Mary Rogers that Mum44 found. Could Ann aged 2 be Alice? Begs the question as to whether or not she was Sackful's daughter

The marriage cert will give you his father's name - if it was Henry I think you can be fairly sure you have the same person. Later - I'm not convinced now about the marriage. There was an Isaac baptised in Ely in 1817 and there's an Isaac 34 and Mary 34 with no children living in Ely in 1851

BUT...I've just seen a baptism in Downham in 1837 of Alice Aspland daughter of Sackfield and Elizabeth. The plot thickens. I'll do some more digging

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 March 08 12:27 GMT (UK) »

These marriages are on Boyds.


1834 / ASPLAND  SACKFIELD / MOXON  ELIZABETH  /DOWNHAM
   
1777/  ASPLIN  SACKVILLE/  TAILOR  SARA/  LONG STANTON ALL SAINTS 
 
1797/  ASPLIN  SACKVILLE/  EDWARDS  ELZ  /OVER   
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 March 08 12:54 GMT (UK) »

An Elizabeth Aspland died in Ely registration district, which includes Downham, in the September quarter 1839. Might be a red herring, might not.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 March 08 13:05 GMT (UK) »

 Elizabeth ASPLAND
Date of burial: 15 Sep 1839
Age at death: 21
Calculated year of birth: 1818
Place of burial: Downham
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 March 08 14:57 GMT (UK) »

Not much more info in the Downham PRs

25th Aug 1834 Aspland Sackfield bac
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 March 08 15:00 GMT (UK) »

Sorry-managed to send reply before I'd finished typing it all out

The entry in Downham PRs reads-
25th aug 1834 Aspland Sackfield bac
                       Moxon elizabeth sp

no Father's names at that time but the witnesses were a James Johnson and John Aspland
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 March 08 15:16 GMT (UK) »

Sackfield baptised 1813 had a brother John baptised at Stretham in 1820. (but most people had a brother named John so perhaps not too much should be read into it!)

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 28 March 08 00:09 GMT (UK) »

Big Thank You  Grin

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I went to sleep (Australia) and woke up to some great work by you all.  I would have thought with a name like Sackfield it would have been a bit easier to trace but I had no luck trying to track him down except for the Sackville which was available by internet.
All makes better sense now. 
Just to complete the children's future in South Australia - Elizabeth died when she was 11 years old and Alice married when she was 20 years.  Sackfield married when he arrived and had more children and died when he was 50.
On the ships passenger list when they came over Mary (wife of Sackfield) surname was listed as Asplan.
Thank you all

Kiss

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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 29 March 08 09:08 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Gaynor for your help.  I wasn't aware of this forum.
Thanks also to all other posters.

My family is descended from Sackfield Asplin.  I have been trying to find out the maiden name of his wife Mary who died en-route to Australia & any details of the two daughters he brought with him with no success.  It does now seem that he was previously married to Elizabeth.  The name Sackfield, previously Sackville appears in the Asplin line from a long way back but not amongst the Asplands, so I am assuming  this must be him.  Still doesn't seem to be any record for the marriage to Mary or second daughter Alice 1yr old in 1850.  Any further information would be greatly appreciated

Thanks again

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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 29 March 08 09:22 GMT (UK) »

Some more marriages that might help in the future. Grin

1830 / ASPLAND  ISAAC / COOK  SOPHIA  /SOHAM 

1818 / ASPLAND  ISAC / STOCKER  ELZ / CAMBRIDGE ST MARY THE LESS   


1703 / ASPLAND  ISAACK / STINTON  ELN/  DOWNHAM 

1741 / ASPLAND  ISAAC / HAIWARD  ELZ / DOWNHAM 

1775  /ASPLAND  ISAAC / UFFEL  AN / LITTLEPORT 
 
1765  /ASPLAND  ISAAC / CANHAM  ELZ / LITTLEPORT 

1761/  ASPLAND  ISAAC/  MARSHALL  MARY / WICKEN 

1745/  ASPLAND  ISAC/  STEDMAN  MARY / WICKEN 

1825 / ASPLAND  ISAAC / MILLER  ELZ  /WICKEN 

1799 / ASPLAND  ISAAC/  CROSS  SARA / WICKEN   

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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 29 March 08 09:35 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Sue,

Will keep all names & try to piece it together.

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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 29 March 08 09:36 GMT (UK) »

This looks like the birth reg. of infant Elizabeth, if you obtain this cert, it will hopefully list mothers maiden name.


Elizabeth Aspland
1849  
Jun  qtr
Ely  
Vol: 14  
Page: 77



I would say that Alice was probably the child of his marriage to Elizabeth and Elizabeth by his union with Mary. Could be Sackful and Mary never actually married. Undecided
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Re: Lookup Marriage Sackfield Asplin to Mary ?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 29 March 08 09:43 GMT (UK) »

HOw do I get the certificate?  From Australia?
  Yes this does look like her, sorry my previous post stated Alice born 1849, it was Elizabeth, Alice was born 1837.,  to first wife Elizabeth as you suggested.

Yes!  Maybe they never married, but this birth certificate would possibly have mothers name.

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