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« on: Thursday 27 March 08 16:43 GMT (UK) »

Hello all, Looking for any information on the parentage of Arabella Arnett, she married Edmund Leach in Ely, 1918, just really curious as to whether the marriage data would contain any info on her parents names, and her age when she married! I know she hails from the London area!

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Re: Arnett
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 March 08 16:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

Her marriage certificate should name her father and his occupation (presuming shes not illegitimate) not her mother though. It may state her actual age or it may just state "full age" etc, meaning over 21.....

This could be her birth reg -

Arabella Alma Arnett Dec 1893 St Giles Vol 1b Page 610

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Re: Arnett
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 March 08 16:49 GMT (UK) »

per freebmd - this is her birth reg.  I'll check the 1901 census for you

Arabella Alma Arnett December qtr 1893  St Giles  Middlesex  
Volume: 1b  Page: 610
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Re: Arnett
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 March 08 16:55 GMT (UK) »

well if anyone could get the marriage info on her father that would be brilliant! and if contains info on her or his residence equally good! thanks for your help so far people!
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 March 08 17:04 GMT (UK) »

You have to buy either the birth or the marriage cert to get the info.  Birth cert is best as it will give her mothers name and maiden name as well

She is not obvious on the 1901 as Arabella or Alma but there is this rather strange entry for Talbot Grove Kensington.  All b London - possibly Childs Hill but that's not clear.  I suspect somebody who doesn't know the family very well has given the info to the enumerator

Harry Arnett 30 occ looks like scaffold something or other
Mrs Arnett 25
1 child aged 3 = son
2 child aged 12 daughter (either this age is wrong or Mrs Arnett is a lot older than 25)
RG13; Piece: 27; Folio: 102; Page: 46
3 child aged 8 daughter (possibly could be Arabella)

Mrs Arnett can't be the mother of the 12 year old
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Re: Arnett
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 March 08 17:11 GMT (UK) »

Great stuff! All useful!, interesting about the location, gives me a lot to go on! you've been very helpful, thankyou.
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Re: Arnett
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 March 08 17:17 GMT (UK) »

Hike

http://www.thosedixons.net/certificates/indexbmd.html
is a useful site which explains what is found on birth, marriage and death certificates

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Re: Arnett
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 27 March 08 17:23 GMT (UK) »

The birth ref quoted above must be the right one as the freebmd marriage entry shows her as Arabella A Arnett
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Re: Arnett
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 27 March 08 19:39 GMT (UK) »

Marriage -

Richard Arnett December 1885 St Giles Vol 1b Page 948 (also another listing for him as "Francis Richard Arnett")
Brides - Alma Newell or Clara Chaimowitz

What do you think??  Undecided


1891 RG12/210 Folio 12 Page 18
St Giles in the Fields, London

Francis Arnett 37 General Labourer Cambs Downham
Alma 34 Ely
Emma 5 London Marylebone
Grace 3mo London St Giles

Only problem is in 1901 Alma is a widow and the 8 yr old child with her isn't called Arabella or Alma, but JaneUndecided  (Grace is also there aged 10 and a brother John age 6)

These are other Arnett births in St Giles district between 1887 and 1897 -

Francis Richard Arnett Sept 1887 Vol 1b Page 652 Died Sept 1890
Bertha Arnett Dec 1887 Vol 1b Page 634
Edith Esther Arnett Mar 1890 Vol 1b Page 643 Died Dec 1890
Grace Sarah Arnett March 1891 Vol 1b Page 658
Frederick Walter Arnett March 1892 Vol 1b Page 643 Died Mar 1894
Arabella Alma Arnett Dec 1893 Vol 1b Page 610
Henry Oliver F Arnett June 1895 Vol 1b Page 637 Died June 1898
George Frederick Arnett Mar 1897 Vol 1b Page 675

Bertha and George F can be found with their parents Frederick and Emma in 1901 census RG13/239 Folio 87 Page 7 Bloomsbury

Grace Sarah seems to be the one with (Francis) Richard and Alma

That just leaves Arabella Alma unaccounted for (not taking into account possible alternate/mispellings of Arnett when registering the births)

I notice you mention she married in Ely and the above family has an Ely connection so worth keeping on record maybe until you send for the birth certificate....

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Re: Arnett
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 27 March 08 19:55 GMT (UK) »

Yeh the one with the Ely connection looks the most promising! bit strange such a link with cambridgeshire back then! need to investigate!Thanks Cat for all the help and info! your a star! and thanks David for the link to the site!
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Re: Arnett
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 27 March 08 19:59 GMT (UK) »

Forgot to mention, widowed Alma is back in Ely in 1901 with the children
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Re: Arnett
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 March 08 20:21 GMT (UK) »

Going back to find Richard/Francis on the earlier census -

1871 RG10/1408 Folio 117 Page 1
Catsden? Risborough Monks, Buckinghamshire

Richard Arnott 35 Ag Lab All born Monk Risboro Bucks
Esther 35 Lace? Maker
Owen? 15 Ag Lab
Arabella 13 Scholar
Dick 11 Scholar
Free? 9 Scholar
Fred 6 Scholar
Henry O....n? 4 Scholar

Named his daughter after his sister maybe?
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