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Sue15
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Hello
I am working on my husband's German Ancestry and I am struggling to read the handwriting on a couple of official documents we have obtained. Its not Gothic script but bad handwriting.
By coincidence we have recently moved to Germany and we are both in the process of trying to learn the German language. Whilst I can manage enough day to day and can read bad English writing my recognition of the German language in poor script is hopeless.
I tried the local family history group but they could not offer any help to read the documents concerned. Please does anyone have any idea of who to approach for help
Fingers crossed
Sue
Any advice welcome
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Lloyd, Old and New Radnor Glascwm
Holl, Radnor, Kington
Mannerings, Hinckley
England, Hinckley
Whitlock, Wilts, Glos and Cardiff
Howell, Cardiff
Hoddinott, Sturminster Newton, Weston S Mare
Thymian Eiling, Rahmer, Heitmuller -Hanover and Braunchsweig Germany
Wellings- Shropshire
Weaver . Cinderford and Walford Herefordshire also Ross Pontypridd
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Sue,
Willkommen in Deutschland  (wo denn ??)
Can you scan the document, or parts of it and post it here ?
There are several people who will have a go at reading for you, and between us, we can can probably piece it together.
Gruß,
Bob
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Sue15
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Helo Bob
Thank you so much. I will send it tomorrow if I may- would you prefer it sent on the forum or PM? I don't want to offend.
Live in Altes Land not so far from Hamburg. Been here two years- but still struggling with the lingo.
Husband's mum's family was from Hannover but moved in 1938 to Wannsee Berlin. Usual story after the war - marriage to British soldier and settled in Uk.
We love living here - but family tree chasing is a lot different to the uk style.
Vielen Dank
Viel spaß
Sue
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Davies- Llandegly, Cefnllys
Lloyd, Old and New Radnor Glascwm
Holl, Radnor, Kington
Mannerings, Hinckley
England, Hinckley
Whitlock, Wilts, Glos and Cardiff
Howell, Cardiff
Hoddinott, Sturminster Newton, Weston S Mare
Thymian Eiling, Rahmer, Heitmuller -Hanover and Braunchsweig Germany
Wellings- Shropshire
Weaver . Cinderford and Walford Herefordshire also Ross Pontypridd
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Sue15
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Hello
Here is the first document which comes from the Magistrate of Braunschweig entitled Acta and states the name of the Worker - August Louis Robert Eiling.
The writing is very small and I have tried to do the best copy I can. Sorry now I look at it again it is hard to read. Anyone who has a go has been thanks
Grüß
Sue
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Davies- Llandegly, Cefnllys
Lloyd, Old and New Radnor Glascwm
Holl, Radnor, Kington
Mannerings, Hinckley
England, Hinckley
Whitlock, Wilts, Glos and Cardiff
Howell, Cardiff
Hoddinott, Sturminster Newton, Weston S Mare
Thymian Eiling, Rahmer, Heitmuller -Hanover and Braunchsweig Germany
Wellings- Shropshire
Weaver . Cinderford and Walford Herefordshire also Ross Pontypridd
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Sue15
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Here is the second document again for August Louis Robert Eiling - says Ausweis which I thought is a passport but it must have another context here.
Thanks
Sue
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Davies- Llandegly, Cefnllys
Lloyd, Old and New Radnor Glascwm
Holl, Radnor, Kington
Mannerings, Hinckley
England, Hinckley
Whitlock, Wilts, Glos and Cardiff
Howell, Cardiff
Hoddinott, Sturminster Newton, Weston S Mare
Thymian Eiling, Rahmer, Heitmuller -Hanover and Braunchsweig Germany
Wellings- Shropshire
Weaver . Cinderford and Walford Herefordshire also Ross Pontypridd
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Hi Sue,
maybe not a passport as we know them, but more like an Identity-Card.
Basically, it's an Citizenship-Passport or ID card, saying that he is indeed a Prussian.
wird bescheinigt, dass derselbe und zwar durch Abstammung
we certify, that the above, through descendency (i.e. birth)
die Eigenschaft als Preusse besitzt
(literally) the attribute Prussian posesses i.e is a true-blue Prussian.
More details will follow later (when I have time) and others have a go 
Gruß,
Bob
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Rapunzel
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The images are very clear and the handwriting beautifully clear.
I will ask my sister-in-law if she will translate it as she has no problems with such writing.
Rapunzel
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Moin Moin
Many thanks to you both for help so far. Its interesting about the true blue Prussian blood as I have assumed the family was from Braunschweig from way back. I know never assume. ....
Please take your time as I know this is a bit of a task to ask. I have had the documents for a little while as I have not managed to find anyone able to read them,....and thats living in Germany.
Vielen dank-
Sue
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Lloyd, Old and New Radnor Glascwm
Holl, Radnor, Kington
Mannerings, Hinckley
England, Hinckley
Whitlock, Wilts, Glos and Cardiff
Howell, Cardiff
Hoddinott, Sturminster Newton, Weston S Mare
Thymian Eiling, Rahmer, Heitmuller -Hanover and Braunchsweig Germany
Wellings- Shropshire
Weaver . Cinderford and Walford Herefordshire also Ross Pontypridd
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Hi Sue,
I'm new in this Forum and from Germany.I can read your documents.If you still need help,let me know because its a lot of writing.
Evi
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Sue15
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Hello Evi
Delighted to hear from you - welcome to the Forum- its full of very experienced and kind people. Thank you for your offer. A kind lady called Rapunzel has been working on this for me so at the moment I will defer your offer but its really kind and I am very grateful.
Let me know if you want any look ups on English Wales or Scottish census records or English civil indexes -I am only too happy to help. On the German family tree front - we have manged ok considering the system is more complex. However you are a great addition to the forum as there are a good number of folk on here having German connections.
Vielen Dank
Viel Spaß
Sue
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Davies- Llandegly, Cefnllys
Lloyd, Old and New Radnor Glascwm
Holl, Radnor, Kington
Mannerings, Hinckley
England, Hinckley
Whitlock, Wilts, Glos and Cardiff
Howell, Cardiff
Hoddinott, Sturminster Newton, Weston S Mare
Thymian Eiling, Rahmer, Heitmuller -Hanover and Braunchsweig Germany
Wellings- Shropshire
Weaver . Cinderford and Walford Herefordshire also Ross Pontypridd
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Msi1862
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Thanks for your welcome,Sue
I'm searching for ancestors on the Isle of Man and have no idea how this works in GB.Right now I'm just reading the posts to get some information,that's why I found yours.
Thanks for your offer to help.
Evi
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Thanks,Bob
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Sue15
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Hello
Thank you to everyone who has replied to my request to read some old German Documents.
In the end Roots Member "Rapunzel" battled with all the old German Script and Stylised text to produce not only wonderful and detailed transcriptions but translations into English.
This was a tough assignment which had seen my local family history centre in Germany shake their heads when presented with the documents and I had tried Roots as a last resort.
Thank you Rapunzel for your brilliant work and thank you to Rootschat for facilitating the process of finding help.
Best wishes
Sue
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Davies- Llandegly, Cefnllys
Lloyd, Old and New Radnor Glascwm
Holl, Radnor, Kington
Mannerings, Hinckley
England, Hinckley
Whitlock, Wilts, Glos and Cardiff
Howell, Cardiff
Hoddinott, Sturminster Newton, Weston S Mare
Thymian Eiling, Rahmer, Heitmuller -Hanover and Braunchsweig Germany
Wellings- Shropshire
Weaver . Cinderford and Walford Herefordshire also Ross Pontypridd
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